Have you heard him say - "I'm sorry I hurt you. You would be better off without me." And it doesn't actually help? This is because comments like this are enveloped in shame and are sympathetic, but not empathetic. In this episode, Jason and I talk through what she needs to hear and how, yes, HOW he can learn to be empathetic. Get your pen and paper ready - you're going to want to take notes!

• Video by Brene Brownon Empathy versus Sympathy
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