A listener in a hierarchical relationship with her nesting partner asks how to start the conversation about moving to a more egalitarian one.

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10:00 Topic: Shifting from hierarchy to equality

A listener has a nesting partner, and when they started, they agreed to a hierarchy. Now she has a boyfriend, and she feels forced to make her boyfriend feel like a secondary partner. How does she open up a conversation with her nesting partner about moving to a more egalitarian model?

• Be brave and bring it up! Ask for what you want. Hear your partner's needs without taking them personally.
• Maybe a theoretical And then what? exercise and start doing regular check-ins, if you're not already.
• Equal or egalitarian? Equality or fairness? Equal respect, not equal outcomes.
• Define "hierarchy." Get specific about new desired behaviors.

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