Writer and podcaster joins me to talk relational meditation, integral theory, the meaning crisis, what is good, Conan, USA vs Italy vs UK, left and right politics, AI, consciousness, theory of mind, soulless art. A deep, fast, fun one.

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Robbie Carlton is host of The Sane and Miraculous podcast. He thinks, writes, and speaks on many things, with varying amounts of credibility. A some-time coach and NLP practitioner, and teacher of relational practices, he's currently on a mission to free the cultural imagination from the limited adherence to modern metaphysics, a task somewhat above his pay grade. In the day time he helps computers talk to each other.

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