In this episode, Jimmy sits down with his close friend Taylor Palmer, founder of Rope Swing Moab—the crew behind the massive canyon rope swings that have become a rite of passage for We Are The They. Taylor shares how a desert hobby among buddies turned into a fully permitted operation, why Moab’s arches and canyons make these swings possible, and how rigorous safety (redundant systems, load cells, and 10x margins) transforms a terrifying idea into a life-changing experience.

Beyond the adrenaline, Taylor explains the deeper side of the jump: intention, breakthrough, and brotherhood. From the hard lessons of earning permits with the BLM, to stories of people leaving addictions and grief on the cliff, to his own journey from welding grind to dream job—and even a quick surf trip with his daughter—this conversation is about courage, community, and building a life that actually fits. 

00:00 Introduction
01:45 From Desert Hobby to Epic Canyon Swings
04:00 Safety, Rigging, and the Road to Becoming Permitted
10:00 Facing Fear and Finding Deeper Meaning in the Jump
18:00 We Are The They Moments & Personal Breakthroughs
26:00 Brotherhood, Feedback, and Growth
33:00 Balancing Ambition, Family, and Fulfillment
41:00 From Welding Work to Purpose and Freedom
49:00 Reflections on Courage, Purpose & Next Adventures
50:28 Outro