2 Pages with MBS

68. How to Begin I: Prizes & Punishments with Mark Bowden, author of ‘Truth & Lies’


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Mark Bowden and I have known each other for at least 15 years. He’s a great friend, and a wonderful host, plus he’s written a number of books including Truth and Lies, a title I helped him come up with. And Mark has helped me brainstorm titles for my books as well, so who better than one of my dearest friends to join me in kicking off this new series? Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 


Michael reads two pages from his upcoming book, ‘How To Begin.’ [reading begins at 4:15]


Hear us discuss: 

The complexity of prizes and punishments: “If you’re getting into a relationship of any worth, you’ve got to expect ups and downs.” [7:41] | Applying the ‘prize and punishment’ way of thinking to everyday life. [11:15] | Scenario planning: The infatuation stage. [12:07]


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