Our global reality is that organizations will decide whether or not humanity can shift enough to avoid planetary disaster, more so than politicians. In this conversation with organizational consultant Dr Alan Watkins, we explore how to educate leaders about the developmental gradient, how to help them and their organizational values move up the levels, and the leading edge of our collective evolution. Dr Alan Watkins is the founder and CEO of Complete, a leadership consultancy that advises hundreds of businesses in diverse market sectors on how to grow their revenues, transform their strategy, step change their leadership capability and develop their culture. He is a disruptive thinker and a modern business innovator. Alan is a visiting Professor in Business at Kingston University, London and the author of seven books on a range of topics, from leadership to how to solve the world's toughest problems. A list of resources mentioned in the podcast can be found here: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/re-imagining-adult-development-in-a-time-between-worlds-with-rob-mcnamara/