In this episode of "Conversing," pastor Albert Tate reflects on navigating the complexities of pastoral ministry. He and Dr. Labberton discuss personality-driven preaching, supporting younger voices in the pulpit, humility, an unexpected lesson from Pope Francis, and more. Read more articles on preaching at https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/tag/preaching/.

Albert Tate is the founder and lead pastor of Fellowship Monrovia, a multiethnic intergenerational church in Monrovia, California. He speaks widely on diversity in the church, intergenerational ministry, and more, and he serves on the Board of Trustees at Fuller Youth Institute.

"Conversing" is a podcast series produced by FULLER studio in which Dr. Labberton interviews leaders on the intersection of theology and culture. Mark Labberton has served as Fuller Seminary's fifth president since 2013. His experience includes 30 years of pastoral ministry, 16 of those as senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. For more reflections from Dr. Labberton visit https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/mark-labberton/. For more resources for a deeply formed spiritual life, visit FULLER studio at Fuller.edu/Studio.