Robert Kaplan, acclaimed journalist and author of Waste Land: A World in Permanent Crisis, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss how the world’s growing interconnectedness is likely to produce greater conflict and chaos. This episode is the sixth in a continuing TPI series on U.S. grand strategy.

Mentioned on the Episode: 

Robert Kaplan, Waste Land: A World in Permanent Crisis

Robert F. Worth, “Narendra Modi’s Populist Facade Is Cracking,” The Atlantic

For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: 

https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/world-permanent-crisis-robert-kaplan