This week, Em and Al are joined by Issy Hawkins. Issy came onto Em's radar after the recent passing of Matthew Perry, who famously struggled with addiction issues his whole life. Issy went into recovery at the age of 21 for alcohol addiction after her life tumbled down around her. Issy breaks stereotypes around addiction and alcoholism with her honesty and vulnerability every day online. You can check out her TikTok and Instagram @issyhawkins_

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Edited by Daisy Grant

Music by Alex Andrew

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