In this week’s episode, Kate speaks with Rachel Morgan-Trimmer, a neurodiversity consultant, TEDx speaker, and author of How to Be Autistic: A Guide for the Newly Diagnosed. Together they explore the complex intersection of ADHD and autism, and what it means to truly support neurodivergent people at work and beyond.

Rachel shares her journey of late diagnosis, burnout, and self-discovery, and unpacks the lesser-known ways mental and physical health can be affected when ADHD and autism go unsupported. They dive deep into the power of language, the harm of assumptions, and how workplaces can move from just “awareness” to real, sustainable inclusion through low-cost, high-impact interventions.

What You’ll Learn:

✨ Why the overlap between ADHD and autism can feel confusing — especially for women

✨ How internalised stigma, shame, and burnout can show up at work

✨ What sustainable, inclusive systems for neurodiveristy look like in the workplace

✨ How to support neurodivergent employees and be a better manager

✨ The role of passion, purpose, and flexibility in helping neurodivergent employees thrive

✨ Why workplace inclusion must centre both health and performance

✨ Why neurodiversity training is more in demand than ever

✨ How changing the narrative from “not enough” to “full of potential” helps productivity and outcomes

✨ Rachel’s personal experience riding the wave of ADHD and autism — and how she empowers others to be their authentic selves

Timestamps:

🕒 01:11 – How ADHD and autism overlap

🕒 12:25 – The rise of neurodiversity awareness at work

🕒 14:30 – What inclusive workplaces can look like

🕒 24:40 – How neurodivergent traits show up in everyday life

🕒 28:40 – Rethinking productivity with ADHD

🕒 36:28 – Navigating neurodivergence as a woman

🕒 40:08 – Why support is key to thriving

This episode is for anyone who’s felt misunderstood at work, questioned how their brain “should” operate, or wants to help build a more inclusive workplace for their employees. When we reframe neurodivergence as a difference, not a deficit, everyone benefits.

Find out more about Rachel and her work via her website, askfirebird.com or on LinkedIn. Buy Rachel's book here.

Links and Resources:

⭐ Perfectionism, Pressure, Procrastination, Productivity, and all the ADHD Ps in between! Workshop available to buy now on-demand. Click here to purchase.

⭐ Book on the next ADHD Wellbeing Workshop all about 'Boosting Hormonal and Perimenopausal Wellbeing alongside ADHD' on April 22nd @1.30pm! Click here to book.

⭐ If you love the podcast but want more ADHD support, get a sneak peek of my brand new book, The ADHD Women's Wellbeing Toolkit and pre-order it here!

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Kate Moryoussef is a women's ADHD lifestyle and wellbeing coach and EFT practitioner who helps overwhelmed and unfulfilled newly diagnosed ADHD women find more calm, balance, hope, health, compassion, creativity and clarity.