What if The Matrix wasn’t fiction—but a documentary?

In this real-deal Breaking Normal conversation, I sit down with Clark, the founder of Birdlimb, and we go far beyond the red pill vs. blue pill narrative.

We dive into:

• Why The Matrix feels more like a documentary than a movie

• Raising Neos, not NPCs (including Clark’s youngest son, Neo)

• Healing outside the modern medical model through meditation, awareness, and self-trust

• Pulling kids out of the medical matrix and becoming your own doctor

• How a month of working together—and Tribe Vitamins—supported that shift

• Tallow, ritual, and commitment (100 Sundays at 1 PM)

• Remembering the future and the possibility of a Boulder Creek retreat

• Bringing outside nature inside our homes through Birdlimb

• Laughter, presence, goofy essence, and bird songs to close it out

This is a conversation about sovereignty, intuition, family, and seeing opportunity where others see limitation.

If you’re ready for something beyond red or blue—

🦬 Get your hunt on:

https://tribevitamins.com

Connect with Clark & explore Birdlimb:

📲 Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/birdlimb

Recorded in the spirit of curiosity, freedom, and remembering what we already know.