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In this heartfelt conversation, Andrea and Rebecca talk with husband and wife director team Jason and Blue Gerber. Together they explore the intricate relationship between grief, art, and storytelling. The directors discuss their personal experiences with grief as well as the process of creating a documentary about artist Chelli Look, and the transformative power of forgiveness. The episode weaves through themes of healing, the impact of nature, and the importance of reflection, culminating in a deeper understanding of how art can serve as a medium for processing complex emotions. The documentary and the conversation explore the cyclical nature of grief and the hope that can emerge from it.
Connect with Jason and Blue
Online https://www.jasonandblue.com/
Instagram @jasonandblue
And watch Dusk Dawn https://www.dawnduskfilm.com/
Chapters
00:00
Heartfelt Connections: Morning Reflections
02:53
Introducing the Creative Duo: Jason and Blue
05:53
Navigating Grief: Personal Stories and Reflections
11:56
The Journey of Filmmaking: Discovering Shelley's Story
17:43
Forgiveness and Healing: A Deeper Dive into the Narrative
26:20
The Journey of Forgiveness
29:45
Understanding the Complexity of Forgiveness
32:26
The Role of Grief in Healing
36:20
The Filmmaking Experience: Listening and Processing
38:57
Shelley's Growth and Transformation in Italy
44:48
The Unexpected Twist in Filmmaking
45:24
The Intimacy of Storytelling
46:37
Finding Truth Through Grief
48:15
The Healing Power of Florence
50:04
Returning to Joy and Creation
51:58
The Journey of Self-Discovery
54:03
The Significance of Dawn and Dusk
57:59
Hope and Healing in Grief
59:20
Sharing the Film with the World
01:00:07
Personal Reflections on Grief
Keywords
grief, storytelling, documentary, forgiveness, healing, art, filmmaking, personal stories, emotional journey, relationships
TRIGGER WARNING: This episode discusses suicide and domestic violence - please listen with care.
In this deeply moving episode, we explore the intricate layers of grief and healing with our guest, Shavaun Scott, a seasoned psychotherapist and author. Shavaun shares her personal journey through profound loss, including the impact of her husband's revenge suicide, and how these experiences have shaped her professional path. Through candid conversations with hosts Andrea and Rebecca, we delve into the complexities of domestic violence, the societal narratives surrounding suicide grief, and the transformative power of storytelling. Join us as we uncover insights into navigating life's darkest moments and finding light in unexpected places.
Find Shavaun
Online: https://www.shavaunscott.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/P.ShavaunScott/
Instagram: @shavaunscott
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@slotherapist
In this episode, Andrea and Rebecca interview Hannah Rumsey and explore the profound (and often unacknowledged) pain associated with the loss of a friend. Hannah shares how her experiences of being unmet and unseen in her grief taught her the importance of acknowledgment in the healing process. As Hannah moved through her grief, she decided to act on the absence she found when looking for support, creating a one woman play, a podcast, and now launching a community for support in friend loss. Hannah is committed to those suffering the disenfranchised grief of friend loss through her beautiful creation of Friends Missing Friends.
Takeaways
It's really hard to move through certain phases of grief if you're not witnessed.
Feeling stuck is common in unseen and unmet grief.
Acknowledgment is a key element of supporting grief.
Emotional disconnection in grief can lead to deeper pain.
Deep healing requires both acknowledgment and connection.
Connect:
Online: https://www.friendsmissingfriends.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/friendsmissingfriends
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/friendsmissingfriends
Meet Up with Friends Missing Friends https://www.meetup.com/friends-missing-friends/
Chapters
00:00 Heartfelt Reflections on Grief and Connection
00:52 The Healing Power of Storytelling
In this conversation, Andrea & Rebecca interview Tony Stewart, about his memoir Carrying the Tiger. Together they explore the complexities of grief, caregiving, and the emotional journey of living with a loved one's illness. They speak candidly about denial, the impact of missed moments, and the significance of support systems. This episode highlights the importance of acknowledging the caregiver's experience and the intertwining of love and grief that accompany them on the journey.
Connect with Tony
On Instagram @tonystewartny
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61570889459153
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonystewart/
and Online https://www.tonystewartauthor.com/books
Keywords
grief, healing, family dynamics, nature, vulnerability, community, emotional complexity, cancer, personal stories, support, grief, caregiving, cancer journey, memoir, emotional support, love, loss, healing, relationships, personal growth
How do we make space for grief amidst the holiday season expectations of love and joy? Andrea and Rebecca explore this topic with Brianna Rose (creator of the Hack Your Nervous System deck) who shares insights on the nervous system, emotional regulation, and the importance of honoring what we're experiencing. The discussion includes practical tools and exercises for both adults and children to learn to be with our grief and explore practices that foster emotional resilience.
Takeaways
Keywords
grief, healing, nervous system, emotional regulation, holidays, connection, Brianna Rose, mindfulness, self-care, mental health
Order Brianna's Nervous System Decks:
https://hackyournervoussystem.org/collections/all
Find Brianna on Instagram:
@ hackyournervoussystem
For our two-year anniversary, Andrea chose this episode to re-release. This conversation on how trauma, resilience, and healing shape us resonates with Andrea's practices during Día de Muertos. We hope your heart finds some note of sweetness for your grief in this rebroadcast.
Original show notes:
In this episode, Andrea and Rebecca welcome Dr. Ramona Beltrán to talk about ancestral grief and the ways that we carry the trauma - and the love and strength - of those who came before us. Dr. Beltrán reminds us to invite complexity, be open to shifting in the ways we see ourselves and others, and to continue to evolve in our understanding of self, our ancestors, and one another.
For our two-year anniversary, we are re-releasing episodes that speak to our grief. Today's re-release is chosen by Rebecca. It's our conversation with poet, Andrea Gibson.
Original episode description:
In this episode Andrea and Rebecca welcome poet and spoken word artist, Andrea Gibson to talk about love, mortality, embracing the chaos and when fear turned into grief, which became awe. Andrea shares their "stage 4 wisdom" and the three wind through hyperbaric chambers and the cosmos with laughter, insights, and of course, poetry.
You can find Andrea Gibson's work at
www.andreagibson.org
on Instagram @andreagibson
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/AndreaGibsonPoetry/
More About Andrea:
Andrea Gibson is one of the most celebrated and influential spoken word artists of our time. Best known for their live performances, Gibson has changed the landscape of what it means to attend a “poetry show.” Gibson’s poems center around LGBTQ issues, spirituality, feminism, mental health and the dismantling of oppressive social systems. Andrea is the author of seven books, most recently “You Better Be Lightning.”
In this deeply moving episode, Andrea and Rebecca speak with Lindsay Stanton whose husband passed away but whose love story continues beyond the physical world. Before his death, the two shared a powerful agreement: to stay connected, no matter what.
What followed was nothing short of extraordinary. From unmistakable signs to quiet moments of guidance, Lindsay shares how her husband remains an active part of her life.
We explore:
Find Lindsay
On Instagram @thehealinggriefguide
On Facebook @lindsay.w.stanton
And her book: The Enduring and Everlasting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2J8PJ4S
In this episode of All the Grief, we talk with author Margie Zable Fisher about The Cabernet Club, a novel her mother (Rona S. Zable) started, and one Margie made a promise to complete after her death. Guided by her mother's spirit, Margie shares the story of how finishing the book became a way to honor her mother’s voice, navigate grief, and bring this shared creative project into the world.
Book available wherever you get your books.
Find Margie
https://margiezfisher.com
On Instagram @margiezablefisher
Rebecca and Andrea welcome therapist and poet, Moudi Sbeity to the podcast. Moudi shares how he lived outside of his peers - and even his family as a boy growing up with a severe stutter, in a country locked in external and internal wars, and his eventual move to the United States. Though always searching for stability and a place to call home, it is through poetry that he has written his story in his own voice - and has found home within himself.
A touching, poetic, and memorable episode.
Find Moudi
On Instagram @moudi.sbeity
Subscribe to Moudi's Substack www.moudisbeity.substack.com
From the publisher's feed
A podcast for everyone touched by grief - which, as our hosts figure, is all the humans.
Hosted by Rebecca and Andrea, a therapist and a social scientist whose friendship deepened…
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