Christopher Zook, Founder, Chairman and CIO of CAZ Investments joins us for fascinating and thought-provoking conversation on the outlook for the economy and the investment opportunities in current markets. Christopher explains why he thinks the risk-reward is so poor in public equity markets at the moment and why investors are being offered poor prospective returns for the risk. We discuss private markets and the areas where CAZ is focused on allocating capital, particularly sports franchises and GP stakes. We also discuss some of the potential challenges in private markets as consumer and real estate debt is refinanced in the coming years. We delve into what Christopher and his team look for when selecting managers and partners, and the questions they ask to help unearth the next thematic opportunity. We wrap up by discussing the big influences on Christopher’s career and his key learnings from over three decades in the industry.

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Episode TimeStamps:

02:51 - Introduction to Christopher Zook

05:11 - Zook's current view on the markets and economy

09:06 - The outlook for real estate

12:48 - Stagflation and the impact of AI

16:29 - Parallels to the .com bubble?

18:45 - Options trading - a key driver of short term

21:35 - Building portfolios for the current environment

25:44 - Inflation, stocks and pricing power

28:14 - Opportunities in markets

30:50 - Investing in sports teams

38:54 - GP stakes and the asset management industry

45:40 - Bad actors in the industry

49:44 - 50 shades of risk

54:25 - Finding the right people to work with

57:40 - Lessons learned

59:17 - Finding the next big thing

01:02:49 - Working with Tony Robbins

01:04:30 - Advice for new investors

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