67 million of us are estranged from a family member. 85% of us are in regular conflict at work. The country is split on every issue from masks to education, health care to policing. Kelly asks journalist and bestselling author of High Conflict, Amanda Ripley where we go from here.

To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices