How does a traumatic incident shape the narrative you tell about yourself? Our guest today, Amy Downs, shares her incredible transformation that occurred as a result of surviving the Oklahoma City bombing. In the years since the bombing, Amy became a mother, lost 200 pounds, competed in an Ironman Triathlon, obtained her MBA, and became CEO of the same credit union that was bombed.

It's one of the most dramatic stories we've ever had on this show.

Don't miss this rich conversation as we learn her story, hear how the Enneagram helps in her personal and professional relationships, and explore whether she's an Enneagram 3 or 9.