Around The Way Curls

Around The Way Curls

By Antoinette Lee & Shanti MayersSociety & CultureHealth & FitnessEducation
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Around The Way Curls episodes

  • Ep 360. Beyonce & Rihanna: The New Kendrick vs Drake?

    For this week's episode, Shanti talks about an upcoming vending event at Broccoli City Festival while Antoinette recounts with pride the 8th-grade graduation of her godson. For politics, we delve into the current situation in Gaza, Russia's deployment of warships to Cuba, and the closure of the University of the Arts in Philadelphia. For pop culture, we beam over Victoria Monét's newest music video release, and question if there is a silent beef between Rihanna and Beyoncé as they continue to promote their hair care lines. Our eyebrows raised as the latest Fenty hair review came from someone in Beyonce's own camp. Join us...


    Contact Around the Way Curls:

    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz6aYqKi7g-kZvFFWaxT2gQ 

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/PjVjBBQu

    Email: [email protected] 

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content


    00:00 Pets and Guilt: Balancing Attention and Love

    03:18 Family Dynamics and Cultural Identities

    08:21 The Power of Calendars for Organization

    11:00 Celebrating the Art of Joyce J. Scott

    24:39 Celebrating Jade's James Beard Award

    27:27 Tensions Escalate in Israel and Lebanon

    31:38 The Complex Situation in Gaza

    39:34 Russia's Show of Force in Cuba

    50:39 The Closure of the University of the Arts in Philadelphia

    55:03 Hunter Biden's Guilty Verdict

    57:40 Supreme Court Rejects Abortion Pill Restriction

    01:00:16 Victoria Monét's New Music Video

    01:04:24 Potential Beef Between Rihanna and Beyoncé

    01:09:32 Ashley Everett's Involvement in Fenty Hair Review


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    1 hr 16 min
  • Ep 359. The Check Engine Light Is On

    In this week's episode, Antoinette shares her excitement about receiving her recent Webby Awards while Shanti talks about a strange encounter with someone who wanted pictures of her feet. For the main topic, we discuss the break with Shanti away and its impact on us individually. We explore the difficult dynamics of our relationship and confess our need for outside help with the commitment to working on our friendship. Join us...

    Contact Around the Way Curls:

    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz6aYqKi7g-kZvFFWaxT2gQ 

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/PjVjBBQu

    Email: [email protected] 

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content


    00:00 Introduction and Webby Awards

    01:58 Therapy and Self-Care

    05:02 Curiosity about the Voicemail

    29:49 The Importance of Boundaries and Asking for Help

    37:13 Balancing Personal Well-being and Professional Obligations

    43:47 The Role of Outside Help in Relationship Growth

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    53 min
  • Ep 358. Rihanna's Haircare, Biden's Border, & Shanti's Back

    Shanti is back from break and full of revelations pertaining to fruit, the kind of relationship she wants, fried chicken, & her athleticism. Antoinette gives us an update on Blue being at away camp & thanks all of the guest hosts for holding her down the past several weeks.

    For Politics as Usual they discuss various topics including Roc Nation's partnership with Philadelphia to provide scholarships, Gaza, Biden's executive order on the border, Hunter Biden's trial, and the blocking of the Fearless Fund by Edward Blum.

    For Pop Culture, they chat about Rihanna's launch of Fenty Hair, which they could be loud and wrong now that new images have emerged, but they also may not be. Tricky....They then turn their energy toward conversation the return of Michael Richards, who made racist remarks in the past, and the lack of accountability and consequences he now faces. Join us.


    Contact Around the Way Curls:

    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz6aYqKi7g-kZvFFWaxT2gQ 

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/PjVjBBQu

    Email: [email protected] 

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content


    00:00 Gratitude and Reflection: Celebrating Podcast Guests

    03:03 Revelations and Self-Reflection: Lessons from the Break

    29:45 Roc Nation's Partnership with Philadelphia

    42:01 Escalating Situation in Gaza

    45:41 Biden's Executive Order on the Border

    57:37 Hunter Biden's Trial and the Fearless Fund

    01:12:46 Double Standards and Public Figures

    01:15:17 Rihanna's Fenty Hair Announcement

    01:26:14 Accountability and Consequences/ The Return of Michael Richards


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    1 hr 44 min
  • Ep 357. Letting Go & Living a Creative Life ft. Franchesca Ramsey

    This week Antoinette is joined by renaissance creative, Franchesca Ramsey. Our convo covers a wide range of topics, including self-discovery, societal critique, and political commentary. Franchesca details the many pivots she's made in her career & personal life while providing insight into how she seamlessly & successfully incorporates her many talents into her brand. To end, Franchesca generously provides us with advice on navigating advocacy & authenticity while growing in your chosen field. Join us.


    Follow Franchesca

    Website: https://www.franchesca.net/

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/chescaleigh/?hl=en

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@franchesca_leigh?lang=en

    Black History, For Real Pod: https://open.spotify.com/show/2zRwxDOXqAgX6bzr2Q1Sa9

    Let Me Fix It Pod: https://shows.acast.com/lemme-fix-it


    Contact Around the Way Curls:

    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz6aYqKi7g-kZvFFWaxT2gQ

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/PjVjBBQu

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content


    00:00 Political Commentary and Social Media Influence

    26:21Navigating Doja Cat's Behavior and the Need for Healing

    29:04 The Art of Career Pivoting and Financial Stability

    35:43 Blending Creative Talents and Tapping into Your Network

    53:55 Accountability and Integrity in the Entertainment Industry

    54:32 Navigating Career Choices and Activism in the Entertainment Industry

    56:28 The Power of Personal Growth and Reflection

    01:03:28 The Art of Storytelling in Podcasting

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    1 hr 20 min
  • Ep 356. Do We Value Women The Way We Value Men? ft. Van Lathan Jr.

    This week Antoinette is joined by the Around the Way Curl Curmmunity's most requested guest, larger-than-life media personality, Van Lathan Jr. We begin by examining biracial identity with a breakdown of Van's newly formed Biracial Bureau of Investigation- the BBI & by discussing why he has declared himself the king of Antoinette & Shanti's hometown.

    For Politics as Usual, we deep dive into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Trump's recent 34 felony conviction, and the role of voting in our current political landscape.

    For Pop Culture, we focus solely on Van. He details a recent situation that required him to self-audit & publicly course-correct and delves into his personal reflections on how he, and society as a whole value masculinity & femininity. We end with our rapid-fire questions and a brief discussion on Black moms of biracial children mattering. Join us.


    Follow Van:

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/vanlathan/?hl=en 

    X: https://x.com/VanLathan

    Watch Higher Learning Pod: https://www.youtube.com/@UCd-kgpmHsANRWOEuxiHyomg 

    Listen to Midnight Boys pod: https://www.theringer.com/the-midnight-boys 

    Buy Van's Book- Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales from the Trenches of Transformation from your fave Black bookstore: https://bookshop.org/p/books/fat-crazy-and-tired-tales-from-the-trenches-of-transformation-van-lathan/18722943?ean=9780306923722 

    Listen to Van's book: Fat, Crazy, and Tired: Tales from the Trenches of Transformation: https://open.spotify.com/show/7CmdVSpUKGnjRNElc5tnxH?si=1920927d189a4af0 

    Watch his film Two Distance Strangers here: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81447229?trackId=14277281&tctx=-97%2C-97%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C81447229%2CVideo%3A81447229%2C 


    Contact Around the Way Curls:

    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz6aYqKi7g-kZvFFWaxT2gQ 

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/PjVjBBQu

    Email: [email protected] 

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content


    00:00 The BBI: Exploring Biracial Identity

    06:09 Debating Zionism: Responsible Discourse and Understanding

    27:38 The Complexities of the US-Israel Relationship

    50:16 Trump's Legal Issues and Our Approach Voting

    01:03:28 Foreign Policy Realities and Political Decision-Making

    01:05:50 The Value of Women in Society

    01:38:37 The Importance of Accountability

    01:40:38 Exploring Masculinity and Self-Care

    01:45:00 Rapid Fire Questions

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    1 hr 55 min
  • Ep 355. Prison Reform, Patriarchy & Black Excellence is Bullsh*t ft. Olay Olurin

    This week Antoinette is joined by the FORCE that is Olayemi Olurin, a movement lawyer, political commentator, writer, and abolitionist thinker. Together they discuss Olayemi's recent honor at the Black Girl Magic Ball, her work as a public defender, and her activism in decarceration and closing Rikers Island. The conversation touches on themes of accountability, the Democratic Party, voting, and the importance of amplifying marginalized voices. We then deep dive into abolition, copaganda, and the deep-rooted issues of patriarchy, rape culture, and the flaws in the criminal justice system. Olay shares her concerns about the impact of her activism on her personal life and the safety of her loved ones. Still, despite the risks, she remains committed to speaking out against systemic injustices. Join us


    Follow Olay:

    Subscribe to Olurinati on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@olurinatti

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/msolurin/?hl=en

    X: https://twitter.com/msolurin?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Watch her epic takedown of Eric Adams on The Breakfast Club here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygNe0arsAug


    Contact Around the Way Curls:

    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz6aYqKi7g-kZvFFWaxT2gQ

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/PjVjBBQu

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content


    00:00 Introduction and Black Girl Magic Ball

    03:16 Olayemi's Work as a Public Defender

    08:03 Olayemi's YouTube Channel: Allure and Nadi

    13:30 Discussion on Amber Rose

    23:01 Views on Voting and Electoral Politics

    25:16 The Power and Impact of Olayemi's Voice

    27:19 Becoming Agents of White Supremacy

    32:17 Abolition and Alternatives to Policing

    36:36 America's Criminal System as a Continuation of Slavery

    59:06 Unpacking Patriarchy and Rape Culture

    01:01:28 Flaws in the Criminal Justice System

    01:15:39 The Disproportionate Incarceration Rates

    01:26:20 Challenging Black Capitalism

    01:32:18 The Challenges of Advocacy and the Importance of Community

    01:38:59 The Criminal Justice System and Non-Violent Crimes

    01:43:26 Balancing Activism and Personal Safety

    01:50:01 Continuing the Fight for Justice and Equality

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    1 hr 54 min
  • Ep 354. Dr. Cornel West, Non-Apologies & Overprotecting Black Men ft. Marquise Richards

    For this episode, Antoinette is joined by educator and pod fave, Marquise Devon Richards. Together they discuss Shea Universe's music, Zaya Wade's new endeavor, and their experience watching the Broadway play 'Home' courtesy of The Culture LP.

    For Politics As Usual, we touch on the ongoing crisis in Gaza, Dr. Cornel West's campaign for president & the dilemma third-party candidates pose, and lastly the controversial Trump endorsements from Nikki Haley and Amber Rose.

    For Pop Culture, we deep-dive into the concept of accountability after the "apology" made by Diddy in response to a video leak proving his abuse of Cassie and examine the societal tendency to protect and idolize powerful individuals, particularly Black men, even when they have caused harm. Join us.


    Follow Marquise Davon Richards

    Overall: linktr.ee/marquisedavon

    Personal: instagram.com/marquisedavon

    Podcast: instagram.com/keepinitabeanpod

    Music Event: instagram.com/duediligence.music

    Twitter: twitter.com/marquisedavon

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk1GXKjTE6BFrAaV-gw0fyA


    Contact Around the Way Curls:

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/ehvKtK6R

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content

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    1 hr 45 min
  • Ep 353. Soft Life: Every Day is an Opportunity to Pivot ft. Hey Fran Hey

    This week Antoinette is joined by the breath of fresh air that is Hey Fran Hey. Together they discuss various topics including personal growth, finding balance, and of course The Jerrod Carmichael show. Fran shares her experience of living a calmer and more fulfilling life, while Antoinette talks about her journey of self-discovery and finding her way back to herself. Finally, with the help of 'This Here Flesh' by Cole Aurthur Riley Fran walks us through the concept of being present, in awe of, and connected to oneself as a tool to collectively combat evil & live a more fulfilling peaceful life. Join Us.


    Follow Hey Fran Hey:

    Website: https://heyfranhey.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heyfranhey/?hl=en

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/heyfranhey?lang=en

    Listen to Fran's Webby Award-winning podcast Living for We: https://www.npr.org/podcasts/1160361239/living-for-we


    Contact us:

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/ehvKtK6R

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content

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    1 hr 23 min
  • Ep 352: Diddy, WNBA Skims Campaign + Police Selling Guns ft. Mandii B

    This week Antoinette is joined by one of her nearest dearest friends and the tornado that is Mandii B. In this conversation, Antoinette and Mandii discuss their friendship, personal updates, and various topics. They touch on the importance of being there for each other, the challenges of balancing personal and work life, and the value of having a moral compass. (06:30) They touch on the cultural appropriation of hip-hop and drag, the impact of streaming services on cable, the ongoing conflict in Gaza and the role of the US in it (32:16), and the issue of police guns ending up in the hands of criminals (35:45). They also cover on the topic of domestic abuse and the recent release of video footage showing Diddy violently attacking Cassie (1:03:44) . The conversation explores themes of gun control, the power dynamics in relationships, and the need for belief and support for victims of abuse. Finally, the conversation then shifts to the WNBA Skims campaign, which received backlash for its portrayal of female basketball players in lingerie. Mandii and Antoinette discuss the different perspectives on the campaign, including the representation of different body types and the potential impact of outrage marketing (01:31:07). Join us.


    Follow Mandii B:

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/fullcourtpumps/?hl=en

    Period Sis: https://www.instagram.com/periodsis.tas/?hl=en

    Whorible Decisions: https://www.instagram.com/whoreible_decisions/?hl=en

    Book Full Court Studios: https://fullcourtstudio.com/


    Contact us:

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/ehvKtK6R

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content


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    1 hr 49 min
  • Ep 351. The Man Who’s Shooting is Also Scared ft. Joél Leon

    *Trigger Warning - this episode contains themes of sexual and physical violence.

    This week Antoinette is joined by artist, writer, and pod fave Joél Leon. After some unfortunate news from back home, Antoinette looks to Joél to help make sense of some of it all and questions whether or not Questlove was right when he said women and children are often collateral damage when it comes to hip-hop. A listener voicemail leads them into an interesting political debate until finally they discuss his much-anticipated book Everything and Nothing at Once- A Black Man's Reimagined Soundtrack for the Future. Joél generously tackles everything from the body positivity movement not yet including men to his recovery & healing from childhood sexual abuse. Join us.


    Follow Joèl:

    Twitter: @JoelakaMaG

    IG: iamjoelleon

    Buy his book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/everything-and-nothing-at-once-a-black-man-s-reimagined-soundtrack-for-the-future-joel-leon/20604139?ean=9781250887108


    Contact us:

    Hotline: (215) 948-2780

    Discord: https://discord.gg/ehvKtK6R

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus content

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    1 hr 37 min

About Around The Way Curls

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Rooted in friendship, humor, and self-actualization, Shanti and Antoinette are a differing, but dynamic duo who explore both the profound and the profane because #DualityIsAThing.


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