Emma Grede sits down with trial-lawyer-turned–viral communication coach Jefferson Fisher—author of the New York Times bestseller The Next Conversation—to unpack the single skill that drives every success: how you speak. Together they explore why social-media overload is eroding real dialogue, then trade real-world fixes that work from the boardroom to the dinner table. Jefferson explains how a smile and an open question transform first impressions, why cutting “sorry,” “just,” and other verbal fluff instantly boosts authority, and how flipping your “no” (lead with it, end with gratitude) sets healthy boundaries without guilt. Emma probes the toughest moments—family conflicts, workplace clashes, digital misreads—and Jefferson delivers tools such as framing conversations around a shared goal, letting your breath be the first “word,” and wielding strategic silence so people hear their own tone. Brimming with memorable metaphors (be a “well,” not a waterfall, in email) and Emma’s candid reflections on her own communication wins and misses, this episode hands you the script—and the mindset—to make your very next conversation resonate.

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