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Google just dropped a major quantum warning for crypto, claiming a breakthrough that could accelerate the timeline to breaking Bitcoin and Ethereum’s core security. Ryan and David unpack what changed, how real the threat is, and why the industry may need to act sooner than expected.
Plus: Trump signals three more weeks in the Iran conflict and markets shrug it off, a $285M Solana DeFi hack exposes critical flaws, Ethereum’s new plan to unify L2s, and why crypto wallets are rapidly turning into full financial super apps.
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0:00 Intro
1:46 Worst BTC Q1 Since 2018
https://www.theblock.co/post/395991/bitcoin-worst-q1-since-2018
https://imgur.com/Y8V3LyR
3:15 Trump, Iran & Market Reaction
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2039508709374636457
https://polymarket.com/event/us-forces-enter-iran-by/?via=bankless
https://polymarket.com/event/us-x-iran-ceasefire-by/?via=bankless
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2039525222311731260
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2039516924762096021
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2039715963730305106
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2039718732361040022
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2039691820419235841
https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2038650848931193203
https://x.com/robinhanson/status/2038778655204122748
https://x.com/natesilver538/status/2038711622043144529
https://polymarket.com/event/which-party-will-win-the-house-in-2026/?via=bankless
https://polymarket.com/event/which-party-will-win-the-senate-in-2026/?via=bankless
18:35 Google’s Quantum Warning for Crypto
https://quantumai.google/static/site-assets/downloads/cryptocurrency-whitepaper.pdf
https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.28627
https://x.com/drakefjustin/status/2038847732152996108
https://x.com/nic_carter/status/2038804571791761821
https://x.com/mreiffy/status/2038878566796988776
https://x.com/nic_carter/status/2039065325627396309
https://x.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/2039403067511341368
https://x.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/2039049535822147890
41:39 $285M Drift Hack on Solana
https://x.com/DriftProtocol/status/2039564437795836039
https://defillama.com/perps
https://x.com/dbcrypt0/status/2039677244734677186
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/drift-protocol
https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/2039587524075491794
https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/2039560830862164329
47:08 Ethereum Economic Zones & Aave V4
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2038625973260722336
https://x.com/etheconomiczone/status/2038271122907578375
https://x.com/jbaylina/status/2038277153641377865
56:09 X Crypto Wallet + Phantom Super App
https://x.com/benjitaylor/status/2036882102420201832
https://x.com/Marczeller/status/2038300072367017988
https://x.com/phantom/status/2039027553940480448
57:43 Apyx, OpenAI, SpaceX & April Fools
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2037607121676603530
https://x.com/hyperbridge/status/2039318963486625880
1:03:37 Closing & Disclaimers
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Three macro forces are converging that almost no one is pricing in correctly. Jeff Park returns to Bankless to lay out what he calls the "certain truths" shaping markets for the next two decades: collapsing demographics across every major economy, wealth concentration that now exceeds even the Gilded Age, and a labor market being structurally hollowed out by AI before robots even arrive.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
3:07 Certain Truth #1: Global Demographic Headwinds
8:26 What a Top-Heavy Population Means for Markets
15:05 The Japan Counter-Argument
26:01 Certain Truth #2: Wealth Concentration at Critical Levels
32:48 Capital Flight, Unrealized Gains, and the Drag on Demand
43:17 Real Estate as the Epicenter of Distortion
48:05 Bitcoin as a Spending and Savings Asset
52:08 Certain Truth #3: The Value of Labor Approaching Zero
1:01:27 The AI Industrial Revolution Comparison
1:04:38 The Convergence: Why All Three Truths Collide Now
1:08:19 Lightning Round: Asset Class Outlook
1:27:49 Closing Thoughts
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RESOURCES
Jeff Park
https://x.com/dgt10011
Jeff’s paper
https://x.com/dgt10011/status/2031757205888762205
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We examine the proposed Clarity Act and its impact on stablecoin yields and crypto finance. Ryan and David discuss geopolitical tensions in Iran and their effects on global markets.
Highlights include Tom Lee's ETH staking venture, the NYSE's stock tokenization, and emerging quantum computing developments. We also touch on Coinbase’s stock dip, Tether’s auditing, and Fannie Mae's acceptance of crypto as collateral.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
3:29 Macro & Markets (Oil, War, Fed)
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2035516932498030879
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2036053106081902692
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2036811133915455745
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2037023604697710673
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2035862840284688507
https://x.com/Stocktwits/status/2036859288572862887
https://www.theblock.co/post/394878/bernstein-says-bitcoin-looks-bottomed-sees-226-upside-for-strategy
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UMCSENT
https://thedefireport.io/research/markets-are-complacent#views-on-macro-oil-geopolitics
23:12 The Clarity Act and Stablecoin Yields
https://x.com/EleanorTerrett/status/2036279124382077137
https://x.com/nic_carter/status/2036469040684646844
https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/2036931850292387929
https://x.com/pete_rizzo_/status/2036420229543206962
https://x.com/StockSavvyShay/status/2036449942060015818
37:15 Tether Developments and Market Reactions
https://x.com/paoloardoino/status/2036428992195039699
https://x.com/nicrypto/status/2036387424620904893
https://x.com/BrendanPedersen/status/2036857950367567951
https://x.com/Shaughnessy119/status/2036876676852752674
https://polymarket.com/event/clarity-act-signed-into-law-in-2026/?via=bankless
40:55 Tokenizing Stocks: NYSE's New Partner
https://x.com/WSJ/status/2036411699633250532
https://x.com/BSCNews/status/2035019819238506993
45:54 Crypto-Backed Mortgages
https://x.com/zoomerfied/status/2037130261469462914
https://x.com/0xNairolf/status/2037149525022806030
https://x.com/DollarDecay/status/2037183407273161104
47:30 Ethereum's Staking Infrastructure Launch
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bitmine-immersion-technologies-bmnr-announces-launch-of-mavan-made-in-america-validator-network-the-companys-proprietary-staking-solution-302724419.html
55:37 Stablecoins and Their Limitations in Freedom
https://x.com/aave/status/2036828379043787194
https://pq.ethereum.org/
https://x.com/charliesmirkley/status/2035364269873881322
https://www.theunseenandtheunsaid.com/p/the-great-american-tax-migration
58:30 Closing & Disclaimers
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MIT economist Christian Catalini joins Ryan and David to unpack his new paper, "Some Simple Economics of AGI," which argues that the scarce resource in the AI economy is no longer intelligence but verification: the human capacity to check, judge, and certify that AI output is correct. Christian walks through the two cost curves reshaping every industry (cost to automate vs. cost to verify), explains why entry-level jobs are collapsing first through what he calls the "missing junior loop," why even top experts are unknowingly training their replacements (the "codifier's curse"), and maps out the three roles that survive the transition: Directors, Meaning Makers, and Liability Underwriters.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
3:42 The Low-Grade Panic
6:43 Who Gets Hit First, and Hardest?
13:06 Coding as Canary, or Exception?
16:21 Human Cognition Was the Binding Constraint
19:59 What Is Verification, Exactly?
29:10 The Codifier's Curse
31:21 The Expanding Iceberg: Non-Measurable Work
38:32 The Two Racing Cost Curves
41:59 Trojan Horse Externality
48:46 The Four Quadrants: Where Do You Want to Be?
54:12 Liability Underwriters and the Venture Capital Parallel
55:41 Directors: Navigating Unknown Unknowns
59:49 60-80% of Your Job Can Be Displaced
1:06:24 Button Pushers vs. Founders: The Great Resorting
1:12:08 The Luddite Risk: Political Backlash Against AI
1:17:30 What Companies and Investors Should Do
1:22:56 The Crypto Connection
1:25:11 Don't Panic: A Closing Playbook
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RESOURCES
Christian Catalini
https://x.com/ccatalini
Some Simple Economics of AGI
https://arxiv.org/html/2602.20946v2
Christian’s thread on his paper
https://x.com/ccatalini/status/2026311784421036223
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NEAR founder and Transformer co-author Illia Polosukhin joins us to break down why today’s AI agents still fall short, what’s missing to make them actually useful, and how IronClaw could unlock secure, private, autonomous AI.
We also explore Illia’s bigger thesis: AI becomes the interface, blockchains become the backend, and both reshape how humans, agents, and digital markets interact.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:43 Illia’s AI Journey
8:19 AI x Blockchain Operating Systems
14:40 Will Humans & AIs Use the Same Systems?
18:20 Why Are AI Agents Still Useless?
28:54 AI Agent Privacy Concerns
35:30 IronClaw Privacy
39:21 AI Agent Limitations
47:00 Context Constraints
53:42 Will Small Teams Win?
57:16 Autonomous Agents & Businesses
1:01:00 Digital Life Forms?
1:02:42 e/acc Vs d/acc
1:09:44 Why isn’t AI Crypto-Pilled
1:14:31 Advice for Builders
1:18:30 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Illia
https://x.com/ilblackdragon
IronClaw
https://agent.near.ai/
NEAR
https://www.near.org/
Attention is All You Need
https://arxiv.org/html/1706.03762v7
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Quantum used to be crypto’s distant sci-fi problem. Justin Drake says it now has a clock. In this episode, we unpack what “Q-Day” actually means, why Justin thinks 2032 is the date the entire industry should be planning around, and why Ethereum is targeting 2029 to get post-quantum ready.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 When is Q-Day?
5:35 The moment quantum becomes crypto-relevant
10:11 How many qubits does it take to break crypto?
16:22 What a real Bitcoin quantum attack would look like
20:19 How much Bitcoin is actually vulnerable?
26:26 Burn, freeze, or salvage? Bitcoin’s impossible choice
35:06 Proof of seed phrase and Bitcoin’s post-quantum bottleneck
41:02 Ethereum’s exposure: smaller, but not zero
45:43 Ethereum’s tougher roadmap: three layers, three upgrades
50:29 The execution-layer plan: replace ECDSA without killing throughput
57:56 Post-quantum, post-AI cryptography
1:03:36 BLS, KZG, LeanVM, and the rest of the stack
1:06:42 Is this bigger than the Merge?
1:17:21 If Bitcoin stumbles, does all crypto stumble too?
1:19:35 “Quantum is not a challenge—it’s an opportunity”
1:21:27 AI, quantum, crypto and the 2032 convergence
1:28:04 Harvest now, decrypt later
1:30:09 Defensive accelerationism and Ethereum’s role
1:39:10 Stoicism, P-doom, and why he keeps building
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RESOURCES
Justin Drake
https://x.com/drakefjustin/
Bitcoin Quantum Risk List
https://www.projecteleven.com/bitcoin-risq-list
Nic Carter Blog Posts
https://murmurationstwo.substack.com/p/bitcoin-developers-are-sleepwalking
https://murmurationstwo.substack.com/p/trillion-dollar-salvage
https://murmurationstwo.substack.com/p/bitcoin-developers-are-mostly-not
The Strawmap
https://strawmap.org/
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Ryan and David break down a historic week for crypto as the SEC and CFTC finally deliver long-awaited clarity, classifying major tokens and reshaping the market. At the same time, Bitcoin is outperforming stocks and gold amid global tensions, raising the key question: is this a real regime shift or just a relief rally? They also cover the rise of prediction markets, the emerging battle for agentic payments (Tempo vs. Stripe/Coinbase), and crypto’s cultural moment with Vanity Fair and the upcoming SBF Netflix series.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
3:47 Macro & Markets (Oil, War, Fed)
https://apnews.com/article/iran-gas-field-south-pars-attack-5ad45090d3b66444467cc255ee966a37
https://energynow.com/2025/06/what-is-the-strait-of-hormuz-and-why-is-it-so-important-for-oil
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116253388303392718
https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2026/?via=bankless?
https://x.com/QuintenFrancois/status/2033469474511429805
https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2033322952238723486
https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2032571409273167950
https://x.com/timevalueofbtc/status/2034612806386086296
https://x.com/fintechfrank/status/2033520517009846618
https://farside.co.uk/btc/
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2034403519609057593
https://x.com/intocryptoverse/status/2033954843048485174
https://thedefireport.io/research/saylor-is-back-in-the-market
22:35 SEC + CFTC Regulatory Clarity
https://x.com/SECGov/status/2033996940363317379
https://x.com/SECPaulSAtkins/status/2034012012460556526
https://www.sec.gov/files/rules/interp/2026/33-11412.pdf
https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/speeches-statements/atkins-remarks-regulation-crypto-assets-031726
https://x.com/Dogetoshi/status/2034011111008178657
https://x.com/BChillman/status/2033913119756714298
https://x.com/jchervinsky/status/2034003107391172946
https://x.com/EleanorTerrett/status/2034450575773884694
https://x.com/tradexyz/status/2034260987197444255
https://x.com/jchervinsky/status/2034269594282500329
44:44 Prediction Markets Expansion + Risks
https://dune.com/hildobby/polymarket
https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2034272538465841410
https://x.com/manniefabian/status/2033505062031344004
https://x.com/clashreport/status/2033513701735551202
https://polymarket.com/event/iran-military-action-against-israel-on/?via=bankless?
https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2033635318662860916
https://x.com/ChairmanSelig/status/2034625252831998397
52:16 Agentic Payments & Tempo (Standards War)
https://x.com/Quicknode/status/2034261280354394610
https://x.com/tempo/status/2034253707303338264
https://x.com/clairekart/status/2034279348480737719
https://visacli.sh/
https://x.com/worldnetwork/status/2033923684768092436
https://x.com/CoinDesk/status/2033883474755551595
58:39 Onchain Banking & Ethereum Upgrades
https://x.com/zksync/status/2033864749016809582
https://fastconfirm.it/
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2033661196792967254
https://x.com/_julianma/status/2033851796574154808
https://x.com/adietrichs/status/2033863884067475634
1:02:38 Crypto Culture (Vanity Fair + SBF Netflix)
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/cryptos-true-believers
https://x.com/CamiRusso/status/2033946061685850353
https://x.com/DennisonBertram/status/2034013980771877353
https://x.com/netflix/status/2033981949740568829
1:08:31 Closing & Disclaimers
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Tempo Mainnet is live, but this episode isn’t really about just another chain launch. It’s about a bigger claim: that AI agents are about to need native money, and that the internet may need a new payment layer to support them. Georgios Konstantopoulos and Brendan Ryan join Bankless to unpack why Tempo launched with agentic payments front and center, what MPP actually is, how it compares to x402, and why they think machine-to-machine commerce could reshape everything from paid APIs to the business model of the web itself.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Tempo Mainnet goes live
1:18 Why the launch is focused on agents
3:58 What MPP actually is
6:30 MPP vs x402
15:28 Why agentic commerce matters
20:08 The “original sin” of the internet
26:04 MCP, NLWeb, and the emerging agent stack
34:07 The onboarding flow: wallets for agents
37:11 How Tempo’s wallet security works
40:11 Tempo chain design and specs
51:13 Why build an L1 instead of an Ethereum L2?
56:10 The Ethereum tension
1:05:01 Agent identity, reputation, and ERC-8004
1:06:53 TIP20, stablecoins, and what can be built on Tempo
1:12:36 Builder opportunity in the agentic web
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RESOURCES
Georgios Konstantopoulos
https://x.com/gakonst
Brendan Ryan
https://brendanjryan.com
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A deep dive into Trump’s emerging grand strategy and the geopolitical logic behind the Iran conflict.
Kamran Bokhari joins Bankless to unpack how the U.S. is trying to reshape the Middle East, manage tensions with China and Russia, and transition from direct intervention toward a new model of burden-sharing, regional power balancing, and global restraint.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:56 Iran War Unstated Motives
10:03 Trump’s Goals
18:43 China’s Role
26:43 Venezuela & Cuba
28:22 US China Relationship
34:27 Optimizing Global Relationships
39:56 Iran War Best Approach
47:12 Does Iran Want to Negotiate?
51:30 Iran Regime Change
56:51 Israel Interests
1:00:36 Marco Rubio
1:05:24 Signal in the Noise
1:07:25 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Kamran Bokhari on X
https://x.com/KamranBokhari
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamranbokhari/
New Lines Institute
https://newlinesinstitute.org/people/kamran-bokhari/
Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kamranbokhari/
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The Ethereum Foundation’s new mandate has reignited one of Ethereum’s oldest debates:
Should it stay laser-focused on cypherpunk values, or lean harder into adoption, product, and market share?
Ryan and David debate CROPS, self-sovereignty, ETH as money, and whether the EF is protecting Ethereum’s soul or holding it back.
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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES
0:00 Intro
2:39 The EF Manifesto
https://x.com/ethereumfndn/status/2032460726728573298
https://blog.ethereum.org/2026/03/13/ef-mandate
https://ethereum.foundation/ef-mandate.pdf
10:18 Bullish Takes
https://x.com/lay2000lbs/status/2033326038122438677
https://x.com/EvgenyGaevoy/status/2033160316079534510
https://x.com/malekanoms/status/2032599584640315706
https://x.com/lex_node/status/2033189653587677343
https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/2032462574571204924
15:15 Bearish Takes
https://x.com/dankrad/status/2032532067527856216
https://x.com/tayvano_/status/2032549549550743925
https://x.com/masonnystrom/status/2032558469786775993
https://x.com/yugacohler/status/2033225486847885758
https://x.com/hosseeb/status/2033603057347616869
https://x.com/divine_economy/status/2033547178803708371
27:43 Bullish Response to Bears
https://x.com/divine_economy/status/2033547178803708371
https://x.com/dimabuterin/status/2033548385974735174
35:44 David’s Takes
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2032832671206748551
47:29 Ryan’s Takes
https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2032512531856503181
56:32 We Can do Both
https://x.com/vibhu/status/2032574444724449605
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2033545623345967572
59:51 Closing & Disclaimers
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