Most people believe the way to fight cancer is to attack it. Shrink tumors, blast cells, and destroy anything abnormal. But what if the real key isn't killing cancer… It's creating a body where cancer can't survive?

That's the philosophy behind Dr. Nalini Chilkov's life's work. As a globally recognized leader in integrative oncology and founder of the OutSmart Cancer System, she's spent decades teaching patients that cancer doesn't arrive out of nowhere; it finds the conditions it needs. Stress, toxins, inflammation, and neglect turn the body into fertile soil for disease. Health, just like illness, is cultivated over time.

The other issue is how conventional oncology deals with cancer. Most people are rushed into treatment before they've even caught their breath. The diagnosis hits, the fear takes over, and suddenly life becomes a calendar of appointments and infusions. But cancer is rarely an emergency; it's a signal.

Because the body is never neutral, every thought, every bite of food, every night of broken sleep is information. When you start to see your biology as responsive rather than static, treatment stops being something that happens to you and becomes something you actively shape.

Your gut health, your blood sugar, your breath, your rest; they're not afterthoughts, they're instructions you give your own cells.

What's the difference between traditional oncology and Dr. Chilkov's approach? Beyond shrinking tumors, how does it influence the terrain that determines whether that tumor can return?

In this episode, we discuss how to build a body that resists disease rather than harboring it. We explore the connection between gut health and immunity, the role of sleep, fasting, and protein in recovery, and how lifestyle signals can either promote or suppress cancer growth.

Things You'll Learn In This Episode

The terrain theory of cancer The goal of an integrated approach to cancer isn't just to kill cancer cells, but to change the environment they grow in. How does your body's "soil" determine whether disease takes root?

Why cancer isn't an emergency Most people are rushed into treatment out of fear. What happens when you slow down, ask better questions, and design a personalized plan that fits your life?

Gut health and immunity A healthy microbiome is one of the strongest predictors of positive cancer outcomes. How can simple habits like fiber, fermented foods, and hydration transform your recovery?

The power of protein, sleep, and fasting How do everyday choices like protein intake, intermittent fasting, and consistent sleep literally reprogram your immune system and enhance treatment success?

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Guest Bio

Dr. Nalini Chilkov is a globally recognized expert in integrative oncology and the creator of the OutSmart Cancer System. She combines the best of modern medicine and traditional medicine to help patients create a body where cancer can't survive. She's the founder of the American Institute of Integrative Oncology and author of the bestselling book, 32 Ways to Outsmart Cancer. To learn more, and to get the free guide, "The Cancer-Fighting Supplements To Create A Body Where Cancer Cannot Thrive," go to outsmartcancer.com.

About Your Host

Steve Hoffart is an award-winning pharmacist, entrepreneur, speaker and podcaster. As the visionary founder of Magnolia Pharmacy, Steve saw a need for a more personal pharmacy that could make a bigger impact. Today Steve and his team of experts deliver on that promise, working with patients and their physicians to solve medication problems and offer personalized solutions to achieve better health and wellness. As host of The Trusted Pharmacist podcast and through his combined reach of over 250,000 on social media, Steve shares actionable advice on nutrition, supplements, and wellness strategies while advocating for meaningful change in healthcare.