Being Different with Liz Durham

What if the biggest lie women are sold isn’t “have it all”…but “you can have it all at the same time”?

This week on Being Different, I sit down with Kate Zepernick — Georgia Tech grad, former consultant, high-achiever, and now mom — to talk about the stuff ambitious women are usually too polite (or too scared) to say out loud.

Kate’s lived the whole arc: the full-time grind, the “part-time” job that wasn’t actually part-time, the strategic career pivots, and eventually the decision to step away without losing herself in the process.

We get into:
- Why one kid is hard, but two kids changes everything
- Why daycare and childcare conversations make people weirdly defensive
- Why high-achieving women wait for permission to choose their families
- What it actually feels like to lose the praise and identity that come with work
- The gray, underused middle ground between full-time careers and staying home
- And the uncomfortable truth that a lot of families don’t really have the choices we pretend they do

This episode is for the woman who’s tired, conflicted, and quietly resentful of her job… but also terrified of who she’ll be without it.

If this conversation makes you feel seen and a little called out, good. That usually means you’re finally being honest with yourself.

Hear more from Kate on her podcast, The Momentum Show for Moms in Leadership and connect with her on Instagram @momentum.by.kate

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This week's solo episode is sort of a follow-up to what I talked about last week about the show Landman. I wanted to spend more time on the character Rebecca, because she represents the version of woman I spent years trying to become. High-powered, serious, competitive, in control. The kind of woman we’re told to admire if we want to be respected. What I didn’t see at the time was how much of that mindset I was bringing home with me, and how destructive it was to my marriage and my family.

I talk about how being trained to compete like a man at work changed the way I related to my husband, how I turned into a control freak, and how I couldn’t turn that off once I became a mom. I wanted to believe I could just set boundaries but my work consistently came before my kids even though I hated that about myself. None of this is about saying women shouldn’t work or that ambition is bad, it’s about being honest with the reality of certain careers and personalities, and how pretending they don’t follow you home is a lie I believed for a long time.

In the second half of the episode, I talk about the Epstein files, the work my friends Nick Bryant and Alicia Owen are doing with Epstein Justice, and what it’s been like to come to terms with how abuse, trafficking, and blackmail actually operate in the real world. Not in a sensational way, but in quiet, protected systems that don’t seem to face consequences. I’m honest about how much anger and disillusionment that brought up for me, especially when it comes to politics, power, and the people we’re taught to trust.

This episode is me saying out loud what I wish I had understood earlier about success, power, family, and the trade-offs no one wants to talk about.

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This week on Being Different, it’s just me and a TV show I didn’t expect to mess with my head the way it did.

My husband and I started watching Landman, and I found myself annoyed, intrigued, defensive, and—eventually—forced to look at myself. The way women are portrayed. The roles men and women fall into. The things we’re allowed to say out loud… and the things we’re definitely not.

I talk through what the show made me question about femininity, marriage, effort, and something I’ve been pushed on for years but resisted until recently: tone. Not changing what I say, but how I say it, especially at home.

There’s also a controversial college dorm storyline that hit on exactly where I think our culture is breaking down, and one moment in particular that surprised me in the best way.

I don’t agree with everything the show is saying. But I do think it’s asking questions we’ve stopped letting ourselves ask. And this episode is me thinking through those questions in real time.

If you’re left, right, feminist, not feminist, or just exhausted by the noise—this one’s probably going to hit a nerve.

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Something about the way we do school for children just isn’t working, so it's time to talk about it. This week, I sit down with Dr. Jack Talmadge, Head of School at Episcopal School of Knoxville, to talk candidly about education, play, and why so many kids struggle in environments that demand stillness, compliance, and constant performance.

We talk about play-based and place-based learning, why movement actually helps kids focus, and how “sit still and listen” somehow became synonymous with being a good student. Jack shares his own experience growing up in a high-pressure academic environment, how an undiagnosed learning difference nearly crushed his confidence, and how one teacher changed everything.

We also tackle:

• Why play is dismissed as fluff instead of recognized as foundational
• How quickly kids get labeled when the environment doesn’t fit them
• The quiet damage of standardized testing—for kids and teachers
• Why college has become the default, even when it clearly shouldn’t be
• And what happens when we value relationships more than rigid systems

This isn’t about tearing education down or blaming teachers. It’s about being honest enough to admit that the system wasn’t built for every kid, and maybe it’s time we stopped acting like the kids are the problem.

If you’ve got a story about education, or strong feelings about this conversation, message me on Instagram @beingdifferentwithlizdurham. I want to hear from you!

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My friend Kyri and I went to Disney thinking we were doing the right thing. You know, core memories, childhood magic, all of that. What we actually did was spend an insane amount of money, sit on curbs eating bad food, drag overstimulated kids through crowds of adults in Mickey ears, and quietly wonder why everyone acts like this is normal.

So this week, we're digging in to why this trip did not live up to the hype.

We get into why Disney feels less like magic and more like a nostalgia trap, how so many people are chasing a version of childhood that doesn’t really exist anymore, and why parenting in spaces built on consumption and chaos feels completely disconnected from what kids actually need. We also talk about how Disney stories have changed, why everything is about self-discovery now, and why that shift feels…off.

This isn’t a hot take episode or a cultural lecture. It’s just us being honest about a place everyone insists you’re supposed to love and what it feels like when you don’t.

If you’ve ever left Disney exhausted, annoyed, and slightly gaslit by the internet telling you it was “magical,” tune in. 

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Lately, I’ve been thinking about peace and realizing how terrible I am at it.

Christmas is supposed to be joyful, but I’m stressed out, overwhelmed, and turning into a version of myself I don’t even like. We’re obsessed with being busy and perfect, and it’s messing everything up.

I caught myself being completely un-peaceful more times than I want to admit and had to call my own bullshit on it. So sorry, this episode isn’t some feel-good pep talk. It’s me being real about where I’m at, what I’m trying to unlearn, and why I’m done with chaos in 2026.

That’s all.
Merry Christmas!

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In Part Four of my conversation with Major General Terry “Max” Haston, Max breaks down what actually happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, what “winning” really means (spoiler: it’s not what politicians sell you), and the mess inside our own government that most people never see.

We also go straight at the chaos happening in our cities, the rise of protests, the tech-fueled madness taking over this country, and why discipline, leadership, and actual parenting matter more than anyone seems willing to admit.

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If you haven't heard the first three conversations I recorded with Major General Terry “Max” Haston, go listen to those now!

In Part 4 of my conversation with Major General Terry “Max” Haston, we pick up right where we left off: Pushing past the polite version of leadership and getting into the messy, uncomfortable truth.

We talk about what really happens behind the scenes when someone climbs the ranks in the military… the jealousy, the backstabbing, the politics, and the weight of responsibility that nobody outside the uniform sees. Max opens up about becoming a general, losing friends in the process, and why firing people (even people he loved) broke his heart.

Then we go straight into the topics everyone tiptoes around: Memphis. Chicago. Crime. National Guard deployments. Veterans. Homelessness. The VA system. Unions. Bureaucracy. What’s getting better, what’s getting worse, and what flat-out pisses us off.

If you’ve been listening to Parts 1–3, you already know: Max doesn’t sugarcoat anything, and I’m not here to interrupt him with polite talking points. I’m here to ask the questions most people are too scared to ask, and he answers them with the honesty of someone who’s actually lived it.

This conversation isn’t meant to change your mind, but it is meant to challenge your thinking. Take what resonates, question what doesn’t, and let’s get into it.

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It’s just me this week and I am here to admit a couple hard truths I’d rather not, but here we are. After skipping out on Career Day at Mac's school I realized I’ve somehow started to think that being “just a mom” isn’t enough, even though I get on this podcast all the time talking about how motherhood is literally the most important job out there. 

I’m also diving into the hilarious (and slightly alarming) differences between raising boys and girls especially now that Charlie has cracked the code to my phone and is basically a tiny fashion critic with zero filter. Her obsession with screens has me rethinking my own habits and relationship with screens.

If you’re a mom who needs a reminder that what you do actually matters, or you just want to feel seen in the chaos this one’s for you.

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If you haven't heard the first two conversations I recorded with Major General Terry “Max” Haston, go listen to those now!

In this third part of my conversation with Major General Terry “Max” Haston, we are not pulling punches. I’m done with surface-level takes and polite conversations. This episode gets into the real, uncomfortable truths about the U.S. military, global power, and what’s actually happening behind the headlines.

Max shares stories that sound unreal, like hitting golf balls near Saddam’s courthouse, and then turns around and breaks down the current state of our military in a way that’s impossible to ignore. We get into the hard questions: Are we helping Ukraine or draining ourselves dry? Are China and Russia thinking ten steps ahead while we’re reacting to yesterday’s problems? And what happens when we place too much faith in technology and forget the basics of actual readiness?

We talk Iraq, we talk global conflict strategy, we talk the threats most people don’t even know to fear, including what happens if we ever face a true EMP scenario. Max has been in the rooms where decisions get made. He’s seen it. He understands it. And he’s not sugarcoating a thing.

If you want a sanitized, diplomatic conversation, this is not that episode. But, if you’re ready to hear what’s really going on in the world of modern warfare, buckle up. This might just change the way you see everything.

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