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  • First Draft Live: JLL President of Technology Solutions Reeves Davis — CRE Clients Are Using AI Now. So What's Left To Sell?

    Only 29% of S&P 500 companies could put a number on what AI actually did for their business this earnings season, and most of those numbers were about cutting costs, not making more money. Bisnow’s own reporting found 92% of CRE firms are running AI pilots right now, but just 5% say they’ve hit most of their goals.


    Reeves Davis, President of Technology Solutions at JLL, thinks the industry is asking the wrong question. At Dreamforce, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei argued that the real value ahead isn’t new AI capability — it’s getting the tools that already exist into wider use.


    Davis sees that playing out inside the brokerage business, too: as AI makes it cheap for clients to build their own tools, JLL is betting its edge is still the expertise and data behind those tools, not the tools themselves. His answer comes down to one idea: someone still has to be held personally accountable when the outcome doesn’t hold up, no matter who built the tool.


    Davis joins First Draft Live this week to talk through where client self-service actually threatens the brokerage model, where it doesn’t, and what JLL is willing to bet the difference is worth.

    33 min
  • First Draft Live: Founder and CEO of Mavik Capital Management Vik Uppal — Vik Uppal Is Betting Big On CRE Distress

    More than $875B in commercial and multifamily loans come due this year, and for the first time since the wall started building, the pile is actually shrinking instead of growing. Fewer extensions are getting granted, which means more owners are finally being forced to answer the question they've been dodging since rates started climbing: refinance, sell or hand back the keys?

    Vik Uppal has built a business around that question. The founder and CEO of Mavik Capital Management just closed a $1B fund, VS3, aimed squarely at the situations the rest of the market has mispriced or missed entirely, an owner who can’t refinance or a lender who doesn’t want to foreclose. It’s the stuck middle of the maturity wall, the part everyone else walks past because they don’t have the underwriting discipline to price it right. He's also steering clear of the trade everyone else is chasing, passing on AI-adjacent assets because he thinks the valuations don't hold up.

    Uppal joins First Draft Live this week to walk through where the real distress is hiding beneath the default numbers, why sellers still haven't blinked on price and what he's seeing that the rest of the market isn't.

    40 min
  • First Draft Live: NMHC President, Sharon Wilson Géno — Inside the Housing Bill that Almost Wasn't

    The 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act just became the most significant federal housing legislation in decades — and it became law without President Donald Trump's signature. 

    This week on First Draft Live, Bisnow Editor-in-Chief Mark F. Bonner sits down with Sharon Wilson Géno, President of the National Multifamily Housing Council, who was literally on her way to the signing ceremony when Trump pulled out at the last minute. 

    They dig into what almost got stripped from the bill, whether the law's headline provision has any real teeth and what NMHC is fighting for on Capitol Hill this week as implementation questions pile up at the U.S. Treasury Department.

    27 min
  • First Draft Live: Affinius Capital Partner, Ryan Krauch — The Bid-Ask Standoff Is Breaking. Affinius Capital Just Proved It

    Affinius Capital closed a $3.4B take-private of Veris Residential last month, one of the largest multifamily transactions in years.

    The deal  represents a change in thesis for Affinius and perhaps for the industry, Affinius partner Ryan Krauch said on this week’s episode of First Draft Live.

    In the cycle of zero interest rates and constant rate compression, multifamily investment had moved away from “what it is supposed to be,” he said.

    “[Housing] is not meant to be tactical, opportunistic, high-yielding plays,” Krauch said. “Multifamily, from its origins, has really been more about income producing, downside protection, diversified income, inflation hedge, all the traditional things. So for us, when we looked at Veris, this was a great opportunity to really reset that framework.”

    27 min
  • First Draft Live: Director of Real Estate Economics for MSCI, Jim Costello — Did CRE Call The Recovery Too Early?

    The 10-year Treasury rising past 4.5% has taken the wind out of real estate’s recovery sails. Momentum gained in Q1 is already reversing as the war in Iran pushes on inflation. MSCI Chief Economist of Real Estate Research Jim Costello said the volatile bond market is “a new wrench thrown into the works.” And while he believes the CRE recovery is still underway, it’s tenuous.
    “[Investors] need to do more scenario planning these days, because that’s how you can deal with the growing uncertainty in the market,” he said.

    40 min
  • First Draft Live: President of Capital Markets for North America, Newmark Chad Lavender — Inside The Capital Stack: What’s Actually Moving Now

    Global volatility hasn't pushed commercial real estate investing into a crisis — it's having the opposite effect, Chad Lavender, Newmark's president of capital markets in North America, said on this week's show.

    Optimism around economic growth is keeping borrowers optimistic that income streams will grow, even if interest rates don't sink. There is no wave of distress on the horizon because debt markets are “almost insatiable,” Lavender said.

    Despite private credit continuing to grow, bank lending opening up at pre-Covid levels and investors increasingly drawn to hard asset in uncertain times, that doesn't mean windfalls are around the corner or sales activity is about explode.

    “We know where stuff's going to price, that doesn't mean a seller wants to sell it there,” Lavender said.

    28 min
  • First Draft Live: Tract President and Tract Capital Managing Director Graham Williams — Data Center Nation: The Backlash Begins

    Only 0.5% of U.S. land works for large-scale data center development.

    On this episode of First Draft Live, Tract President and Tract Capital managing director Graham Williams, whose firm is behind some of the biggest data center developments in the country, breaks down why power, water, a shrinking skilled workforce and rising regulation and public backlash are making viable sites surprisingly difficult to find. 

    30 min

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