What if your business could give you more joy, freedom and inspiration?

In this special episode, I’m joined by my friend and conference speaker Emma Lovell, the original Bleisure (business + leisure) Coach. We talk all about retreats, rest, and how weaving a little more leisure into your business can spark creativity, attract your ideal clients, and actually help you grow faster.

Emma also shares why she literally changed her flight back from the US so she wouldn’t miss the Social Media & Marketing Conference on Friday 29 August 2025 in Melbourne CBD (so really, what’s your excuse?). https://www.socialmediaandmarketing.com.au/conference 

If you’re ready to rethink marketing, rediscover balance, and learn how fun can fuel your business, this is the episode for you.

🎧 Hit play now and join the conversation.