After Katie asks Jesse if she did a cancel culture, she takes him on a disturbing and nonconsensual journey involving conservative and possibly Nazi-sympathetic furries. Then the hosts discuss the newly launched University of Austin and the reaction to it from very sane people online.

Show notes/Links:

Hey Microsoft: Do 👏 Better 👏:

Did Katie do a cancel culture?:

Deleted but was originally on this list: https://www.kexp.org/anti-racist-and-social-justice-resources/

Right-wing furries:

https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Foxler_Nightfire

The suspect armband:

“The Furred Reich: The truth about Nazi furries and the alt-right”:

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2017/02/furred-reich-truth-about-nazi-furries-and-alt-right

Furry Raiders rules: https://furryraiders.org/pages/tos

Pano Canelos announces plans to “build a university in Austin dedicated to the fearless pursuit of truth”:

The website: https://www.uaustin.org/

Kathleen Stock situation: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-59084446

Will Bunch doesn’t like it: https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/university-of-austin-wokeness-on-campus-20211111.html

Why grifting is now in fashion: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/10/molly-roberts-grifting-is-so-on-trend/

Guardian column is critical: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/12/bari-weiss-university-of-austin-free-speech

David French says Bari Weiss has gotten a bad rap on the Columbia stuff: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/the-sliming-of-bari-weiss/

The Root with a very Root-y take: https://www.theroot.com/hogwarts-for-wypipo-acclaimed-caucasian-race-theorists-1848025585

Katie on higher ed: https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2019/04/24/40000161/free-public-college-is-great-free-job-training-is-better

The BLS’s (inexplicable) Fastest Growing Occupations chart: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/fastest-growing.htm

A “proliferation of administrators” at Yale: https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/11/10/reluctance-on-the-part-of-its-leadership-to-lead-yales-administration-increases-by-nearly-50-percent/

“Rittenhouse’s trial is yet to begin, but ever since he chose to travel to Kenosha, Wisconsin, and hunt down anti-racist protesters with an assault rifle, he has received significant far-right support, including from government forces and, it now appears, the judge presiding over his case.”: https://theintercept.com/2021/10/30/kyle-rittenhouse-charlottesville-far-right-violence-courts/

Excellent Washington Post minidoc with background info on both Kyle Rittenhouse and Joseph Rosenbaum:

Jesse early on in this controversy:

DeepFuckingValue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Gill

Glenn Greenwald on media coverage of the Rittenhouse case:

Image credit for the lead photo, of the Austin skyline: AUSTIN, TEXAS - NOVEMBER 07: General view of atmosphere during the Austin FOOD & WINE Festival at Auditorium Shores on November 07, 2021 in Austin, Texas. (Photo by Rick Kern/Getty Images)

After America’s leading political analysts, Katie and Jesse, talk about the election results in Seattle (voters don’t like police abolition!) and Virginia (voters don’t like CRT, maybe, if they know what it is?), they turn their attention to two highly potent instances of online b******t: the recent LIEberal media’s attack on the LGB (Let’s Go Brandon) community, and a story Jesse still can’t quite wrap his mind about involving NFTs (?) and Lindsay Lohan (!?) and furries (!?!?!?!?). God help us all. (Image source.)

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Show notes/Links:

Lucali: https://www.lucalibrooklyn.com/

What a pie there looks like (one of the actual pizzas Jesse ate with his uncle):

The Soup Nazi:

Nicole Thomas-Kennedy tweets: https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/toxic-tweets-show-why-nicole-thomas-kennedy-is-unfit-to-be-seattle-city-attorney/

The Dispatch on Loudoun County:

Let’s Go Brandon origin: https://www.npr.org/2021/10/30/1050782613/why-the-lets-go-brandon-chant-turned-meme-can-be-heard-on-the-floor-of-congress

SW Airlines pilot says it: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-43c44e78dd04397a2b4e673387551976

Person who heard it was AP reporter already writing on that subject:

Normal stuff:

Actual furries unimpressed with Lohan’s thing:

Furry Porn Against NFTs: A Call to Forearms (basically 2021’s Martin Luther/church door): https://soatok.blog/2021/10/01/furry-porn-against-nfts-a-call-to-forearms/

Thank you, @tracewoodgrains!

Katie’s previous life is uncovered, an update is provided on the Loudoun County situation is provided, the cotton ceiling is discussed, Jesse becomes increasingly disconsolate, Huma Abedin’s “sexual assault” is discussed, and the passive voice is used in the episode description. (Note: this is the free version of this episode. If you’re a premium subscriber looking to access the comments section, you want this version instead.)

Show notes/Links:

Loudoun County rape case update: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/in-case-at-center-of-political-firestorm-judge-finds-teen-committed-sexual-assault-in-virginia-school-bathroom/2021/10/25/42c037da-35cc-11ec-8be3-e14aaacfa8ac_story.html

Email from police officer: Scroll to the very bottom.

BBC on the cotton ceiling: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57853385.amp

Explanation from a sympathetic source: http://sjwiki.org/wiki/Cotton_ceiling

Planned Parenthood Toronto joins in on the fun: https://www.facebook.com/PPToronto/posts/in-january-of-2012-planned-parenthood-toronto-in-partnership-with-other-local-pr/10150615471958021/

Linda Riley says it never happens and people respond with their stories of it happening:

Shoddy survey: http://www.gettheloutuk.com/blog/category/research/lesbians-at-ground-zero.html

Joanna Harper/IOC: https://www.science.org/content/article/scientist-racing-discover-how-gender-transitions-alter-athletic-performance-including

#CisiswiththeT backfires: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23CisWithTheT&src=typeahead_click

Dawn Ennis in The Daily Beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-bbcs-ignorance-about-trans-women-and-sex-is-disgusting-and-dangerous

(Big Jesse fan: https://lifeafterdawn.medium.com/we-warned-the-atlantic-about-jesse-singal-but-they-ignored-us-beaee469d3f8)

Huma Abedin experience described as ‘assault’: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/26/huma-abedin-sexual-assault-us-senator-book-memoir

NY Post yells at Abedin: https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/huma-abedin-makes-a-mockery-of-real-sexual-assault/

But she doesn’t even want to call it ‘assault’!

Email from cop:

I just wanted to share some context on sexual assault investigations, as I have seen them happen. It would be entirely normal for the SRO in the case of the Loudoun county incident to handle the entire initial investigation themselves. That may sound odd given the seriousness of the crime, but for most sexual assaults the process would look something like a patrol, or in this case a school officer being dispatched to someone wanting to make a report. The initial officer would take a basic report, often not even a full interview (if the case gets handed off the detectives are going to need to do a full interview and it doesn't make sense to traumatize the victim by making them go through every detail unless you have to). This report would basically try and establish whether or not there was a crime scene or evidence that needed to be preserved, and whether or not a forensic exam at a hospital would be of any value. It's only if you needed to preserve a crime scene that you would be calling for additional officers to do that. 

This all gets more complicated with minors. I don't know how Virginia's laws around medical consent work, but it may be necessary, or at least wise to get parental consent before administering a SA kit, it is after all a pretty invasive exam. Also while it may seem odd to have a school cop handle such a major incident, they at least in theory, are going to have special training on interacting with and interviewing juveniles. On the occasions I have had to do these investigations, it's training I feel an acute lack of. Lastly, it's best practice, though I have no idea if it is derigur in Loudoun County, for interviews of juveniles who have been sexually assaulted to be interviewed by a psychologist or doctor with forensic training. A police detective will monitor the interview, and may ask for some specific followup, but its understood that people with particular expertise in working with kids are better suited to getting full answers without causing any unnecessary trauma. 

My opinion is that everything I heard about the initial investigation seemed more or less above board. It's only what came after that got fucked up. 

In the wake of some important new information, Jesse and Katie follow up on last week’s Loudoun County rape scandal segment. Then they talk about Nikole Hannah-Jones, the Netflix walkout, and the violence committed by YouTube Vito Gesualdi in the service of his ultraright ideology, “Jokes are funny.” (This is the public version of this episode — for the premium version, with comments enabled, go here.)

Show notes/Links:

Original Daily Wire reporting: https://www.dailywire.com/news/loudoun-county-schools-tried-to-conceal-sexual-assault-against-daughter-in-bathroom-father-says

Jesse gets the logs:

The Daily Wire doubles down:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/records-suggest-loudoun-sent-team-of-police-to-deal-with-upset-parent-not-alleged-rape-of-student

The school knew early on that an assault had occurred: https://wtop.com/loudoun-county/2021/10/email-from-loudoun-co-superintendent-alerted-school-board-on-day-of-bathroom-assault/

Nikole Hannah-Jones breaks the news of her cancelled talk:

“Some months ago, a dear friend asked me for a favor. Her former boarding school, Middlesex, wanted me to come speak as part of BHM. Speaking at this type of school is not something I typically do, but she’s my friend. I said yes. I just learned the Pres & board canceled my talk.”

SHE was really cancelled: “So, you actually got cancelled unlike the people who complain about bring cancelled on mainstream platforms?”

Let’s get back to her thread from a moment. NHJ says: 

Vito Gesualdi: https://www.youtube.com/c/vito/about

At Berkeley:

Trying to bring everyone together with Pepsi, like Kendall Jenner did:

Trying to sell ol’ fashioned popped corn:

Video of Vito Gesualdi getting attacked and pleading for tolerance (of jokes): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AaOHBpExuqy-SHq-qIBial6z9hSXdjML/view?usp=sharing

Variety’s insane, now-apologized-for tweet: “At times, the #NetflixWalkout situation threatened to devolve as counter protestors pushed against trans speakers.”

Apology:

Jesse’s step-by-step debunking of “Comedian and videographer Vito Gesualdi screams profanities as he engages with peaceful protesters begging him to leave”

What he actually said: “I’m just here to say that jokes are funny, people. Dave Chappelle’s a funny guy. I love Dave! I don’t know why all the violence, I don't know why all the hate. I just LOVE DAVE CHAPPELLE! DAAAAAVE CHAPPEEEELLE! WOOOOO!”

AP’s correction:

“Netflix just fired the organizer of the trans employee walkout”:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/4avke9/netflix-fires-trans-employee-who-was-organizing-walkout-over-chappelle-special

“Netflix just fired the organizer of the trans employee walkout”:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/15/22728337/netflix-fires-organizer-trans-employee-walkout-dave-chappelle

“Netflix Has Fired a Pregnant Organizer of the Trans Employee Walkout”: https://gizmodo.com/netflix-has-fired-a-pregnant-organizer-of-the-trans-emp-1847874257

“Netflix fires employee trans activist for allegedly leaking internal documents”: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/oct/15/netflix-fires-employee-trans-activist-for-allegedly-leaking-internal-documents

“Trans people are in the middle of a holocaust”: https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/577649-netflix-protesters-clash-with-chappelle-supporters-amid

Everyone ran with the 1,000-employees figure:

Lead image caption, which has plenty of editorializing: “LOS ANGELES, CA - OCTOBER 20: Vito Gesualdi, center, yells as Netflix employees gathered outside a Netflix location at 1341 Vine St in Hollywood Wednesday morning in support as members of the Netflix employee resource group Trans*, coworkers and other allies staged a walkout to protest Netflix's decision to release Dave Chappelle's latest Netflix special, which contains a litany of transphobic material. Hollywood on Wednesday, Oct. 20, 2021 in Los Angeles, CA. (Al Seib / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images). “

Katie and Jesse follow up with just a bit more KidneyGate discussion, then talk about Netflix employees’ reactions to Dave Chappelle’s special. The second half is an in-depth look at an astonishingly bad scandal in the Loudoun County, Virginia public schools. This is the public version of the episode — if you’re a premium subscriber and want to comment on the private version, click here. (Image via Haley Milon Bour of Loudoun Now.)

Show notes/Links:

Shoutout to ChocoRaisinBoi: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/q6njk1/so_you_dont_have_to_listen_for_15_minutes/

New version he made for us:

The meme’s origin: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/friendship-ended-with-mudasir

Do we owe an apology to Dawn Dorland?: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/q85brs/pod_owes_an_apology_to_dawn_dorland/

KidneyGate account, which is worth following: https://twitter.com/kidneygate

Great tweetstorm on class element of KidneyGate — thanks to listener Katherine on our site for pointing it out:

Terra Field tweetstorm:

Pretty misleading headlines:

Ted Sarandos denies that Netflix content causes real-world harm: https://variety.com/2021/film/news/ted-sarandos-dave-chappelle-defense-1235088647/

Netflix fires walkout leader for leaking data: https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/15/22728337/netflix-fires-organizer-trans-employee-walkout-dave-chappelle

Loudoun County 2016 and 2020 election results:

https://results.elections.virginia.gov/vaelections/2020%20November%20General/Site/Presidential.html

https://results.elections.virginia.gov/vaelections/2020%20November%20General/Site/Presidential.html

Antiracist enemies list: https://wtop.com/loudoun-county/2021/03/parents-group-says-theyve-been-targeted-for-opposition-to-teachings-of-racial-equality-in-loudoun-co-schools/

Gym teacher who doesn’t want to abide the new rules: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/loudoun-teacher-transgender-pronouns-cross/2021/06/08/567edf5e-c7b5-11eb-a11b-6c6191ccd599_story.html

Local coverage of school board meeting chaos: https://wjla.com/news/local/loudoun-county-school-leaders-board-meeting

https://loudounnow.com/2021/09/24/loudoun-school-board-tightens-reins-on-public-commenters/

Fairly clear video of entire Scott Smith altercation:

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/us/loudoun-county-school-board-meeting/index.html

New gender-identity policy passes in August: https://www.loudountimes.com/news/loudoun-school-board-passes-transgender-policy-8040/article_6a583872-faff-11eb-9a3f-e7f735eb41ab.html

National School Boards Association letter to Joe Biden calling for his administration to use the PATRIOT Act and other tools to rein in out-of-control school-board protesters: https://nsba.org/-/media/NSBA/File/nsba-letter-to-president-biden-concerning-threats-to-public-schools-and-school-board-members-92921.pdf

Explosive Daily Wire story (paywalled): https://www.dailywire.com/news/loudoun-county-schools-tried-to-conceal-sexual-assault-against-daughter-in-bathroom-father-says

Newsweek followup: https://www.newsweek.com/loudoun-county-school-assaults-students-1638899

Washington Post followup: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/loudoun-virginia-school-assault-apology/2021/10/15/10853e8e-2ddc-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

Beth Berts is out (happened after we recorded): https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/loudoun-school-board-member-beth-barts-resigns-her-position/2021/10/15/87608c52-2deb-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

In the intro, Jesse makes a strong pro-Karen case. Then Jesse tells Katie about an amazing story from the frozen, mystical land of Kahn-a-da involving a very righteous book-burning. Then, a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT. In the final (and best) segment, author Kat Rosenfield joins to talk about her new book, No One Will Miss Her, her deranged enemies in YA Twitter, and, of course, the Bad Art Friend story. (This is the public version of this episode. For the version with comments enabled for our premium subscribers, go here.) (Image via Getty plus Jesse’s expert illo skills.)

Show notes/links:

No One Will Miss Her is great!: https://www.amazon.com/No-One-Will-Miss-Her/dp/0063057018

Canada’s residential system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system

Book burning first reported by Radio Canada on September 7 in some indecipherable code: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1817537/livres-autochtones-bibliotheques-ecoles-tintin-asterix-ontario-canada

Luckily that same day The National Post wrote it up in English: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/book-burning-at-ontario-francophone-schools-as-gesture-of-reconciliation-denounced

Ruh roh!: https://torontosun.com/news/national/warmington-school-board-says-it-got-burned-in-indigenous-book-burning-project

Resignation: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/indigenous-peoples-commission-resignation-1.6168910

Is ‘Two Spirit’ really a common thing?: https://rewirenewsgroup.com/article/2016/10/13/two-spirit-tradition-far-ubiquitous-among-tribes/

Kat’s big piece in Vulture about YA insanity: https://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-toxic-drama-of-ya-twitter.html

Jesse on same subject:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-a-twitter-mob-destroyed-a-young-immigrant-female-authors-budding-career

https://reason.com/2019/05/05/teen-fiction-twitter-is-eating-its-young/

YA authors and others wrote in to Jesse about how insane it is:

Who Is the Bad Art Friend?: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/magazine/dorland-v-larson.html

Frederick Joseph is the unluckiest man in New York City: After dealing with a Satanic AirBnB host, a racist woman on the street, and racist editors and producers, he is the victim of the latest Central-Park-Karen-style incident. The hosts discuss his super real and honest stories. Then: Jesse interviews Kathryn Paige Harden, the author of The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality, about her research and the perils of debating fraught scientific and societal subjects online.

Show notes/Links:

Job listing: https://www.patreon.com/posts/were-hiring-56634428

Original Frederick Joseph video: https://twitter.com/FredTJoseph/status/1441919836112650242

Insider’s coverage: https://www.insider.com/woman-accused-telling-black-dog-walker-stay-in-hood-fired-2021-9

Derek Andersen has said problematic stuff himself: https://twitter.com/UnringThisBell/status/1442331588713320452

People won’t leave Joseph alone: https://twitter.com/fredtjoseph/status/1433776453620060170

Man Claims United Airlines Offered Woman $1,000 Voucher to Put Her Feet Down: 'The Audacity of White Privilege': https://www.newsweek.com/white-privilege-united-airlines-feet-table-845387

Anna Merlan general background (not petty): https://jezebel.com/is-the-uva-rape-story-a-gigantic-hoax-asks-idiot-1665233387

Merlan on Joseph on AirBnB satanists: https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7jnmb/we-talked-to-the-host-accused-of-doing-satanic-rituals-in-his-airbnb

Joseph’s claim about black-author quotas: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1442501778675806213

Paige Harden’s faculty page at the University of Texas - Austin: https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/prc/directory/faculty/kh24738

Paige Harden’s book, The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality: https://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Lottery-Matters-Social-Equality/dp/0691190801

Giden Lewis-Kraus’s profile of her in The New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-convinced-that-genetics-matters

Freddie deBoer on his related book The Cult of Smart: How Our Broken Education System Perpetuates Social Injustice: https://barpodcast.fireside.fm/22

Lothian Birth Cohorts: https://www.ed.ac.uk/lothian-birth-cohorts

Frederick Joseph is the unluckiest man in New York City: After dealing with a Satanic AirBnB host, a racist woman on the street, and racist editors and producers, he is the victim of the latest Central-Park-Karen-style incident. The hosts discuss his super real and honest stories. Then: Jesse interviews Kathryn Paige Harden, the author of The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality, about her research and the perils of debating fraught scientific and societal subjects online. 

(Note: Due to a minor scheduling snafu I'm late getting you your patrons-only episode, but I'll have it for you by tomorrow morning at the latest. Also, keep an eye out for a longer cut of the Harden interview that we're releasing just for patrons, which I'll post momentarily. -Jesse)

Show notes/Links:

Job listing: https://www.patreon.com/posts/were-hiring-56634428 

Original Frederick Joseph video:

Insider’s coverage: https://www.insider.com/woman-accused-telling-black-dog-walker-stay-in-hood-fired-2021-9

Derek Andersen has said problematic stuff himself:

People won’t leave Joseph alone:

Man Claims United Airlines Offered Woman $1,000 Voucher to Put Her Feet Down: 'The Audacity of White Privilege': https://www.newsweek.com/white-privilege-united-airlines-feet-table-845387

Anna Merlan general background (not petty): https://jezebel.com/is-the-uva-rape-story-a-gigantic-hoax-asks-idiot-1665233387 

Merlan on Joseph on AirBnB satanists: https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7jnmb/we-talked-to-the-host-accused-of-doing-satanic-rituals-in-his-airbnb 

Joseph’s claim about black-author quotas:

Paige Harden’s faculty page at the University of Texas - Austin: https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/prc/directory/faculty/kh24738

Paige Harden’s book, The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality: https://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Lottery-Matters-Social-Equality/dp/0691190801

Giden Lewis-Kraus’s profile of her in The New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-convinced-that-genetics-matters

Freddie deBoer on his related book The Cult of Smart: How Our Broken Education System Perpetuates Social Injustice: https://barpodcast.fireside.fm/22 

Lothian Birth Cohorts: https://www.ed.ac.uk/lothian-birth-cohorts

An update on Katie's face, Catie's Correction Corner, the world's only black nonbinary conservative, the bizarre newspeak pertaining to females being embraced by major liberal institutions, personals, and Ellen Pao's very strange New York Times op-ed about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos.

Show notes/Links:

Full, correct context for Daniel Lavery criticizing someone for reporting a home break-in: https://www.reddit.com/r/DearPrudence/comments/lzge8x/comment/gqdp0vz

Troubled Daily Beast piece about Carson Griffith: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gawker-writers-quit-over-editorial-director-carson-griffiths-offensive-tweets-workplace-comments

The articles notes in its subhed: “The new site’s only two full-time writers exited Wednesday in protest of editorial director Carson Griffith’s offensive remarks about everything from race to penis size.”

There is no subsequent explanation of the claim that Griffith made an “offensive remark” about penis size — instead, she forwarded an email thread in which other people were joking about someone’s penis size, but which also contained information pertinent to a potential story idea.

Tani writes: “Kosoff additionally told HR of an exchange in which Griffith took a dismissive stance towards the recruiting of a writer who identifies as non-binary. Kosoff, who was tasked with recruiting some new editorial staff, wrote in a Slack message that she was going to meet with a potential staffer ‘who is a person of color and nonbinary (uses they/them pronouns).’ When she returned from the meeting two hours later, Griffith initially laughed off the preferred pronouns. ‘lol is [name redacted] a girl?’ Griffith asked.” But Slack logs included in Griffith’s complaint show that when Griffith said that, it wasn’t in the context of responding to this individual being nonbinary, but was rather simply a question about their sex/pronouns: https://postimg.cc/yJwcRZ6k

Now, this screenshot doesn’t include the mention of “who is a person of color and nonbinary (uses they/them pronouns),” so it’s unclear when that was said. But there’s no evidence, within this excerpt, of Griffith responding directly to the applicant being nonbinary.

Tani writes: “The two reporters also relayed to human-resources instances in which they believed Griffith—who holds a management role at the site—expressed an uncomfortably negative attitude on issues related to workplace diversity. In a Slack message reviewed by The Daily Beast, Griffith seemed to brag to Gawker staff that she had gotten them out of a company-wide diversity training session, though neither Kosoff nor Breslaw had asked her to do so. The two ended up attending.”

Griffith claims she did not know this was a diversity meaning, and sure enough in the Slack log in question there is no mention of that aspect of it — she simply says she got them out of most of a long meeting that had been blocked off on their calendar (apologies for low quality): https://postimg.cc/PvqDsz2V/483230fa

ACLU tweet: https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1439259891064004610

Interview in The Atlantic in which Emma Green asks the ACLU’s Louise Melling about language like “pregnant people”: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/pregnant-people-gender-identity/620031/

AOC on AC360 (note that she uses “menstruating person,” not ‘menstruator’ as Jesse says in the show): https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/09/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-texas-abbott-abortion-ban-ac360-intv-sot-vpx.cnn

Transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/acd/date/2021-09-07/segment/01

Lancet tweet/cover: https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1441372277786951681

Who Ellen Pao is: https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/ellen-pao-silicon-valley-sexism-reset-excerpt.html

Her complicated departure: https://www.vox.com/2015/7/10/11614622/pao-out-as-reddit-ceo-co-founder-huffman-takes-over

“The Perverse Incentives That Help Incels Thrive in Tech”:

Even crazier: https://www.wired.com/story/ellen-pao-the-perverse-incentives-that-help-incels-thrive-in-tech/

Her crazy NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/opinion/elizabeth-holmes-trial-sexism.html

Actual information about what Holmes did: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/podcasts/the-daily/elizabeth-holmes-trial-theranos-silicon-valley.html

DoJ release noting she was was indicted alongside Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani who is very much male!): https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/theranos-founder-and-former-chief-operating-officer-charged-alleged-wire-fraud-schemes

Tom Cotton op-ed: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html

(Apologies -- initially uploaded this with the wrong episode number/URL, so here's a corrected redo.)

An update on Katie's face, Catie's Correction Corner, the world's only black nonbinary conservative, the bizarre newspeak pertaining to females being embraced by major liberal institutions, personals, and Ellen Pao's very strange New York Times op-ed about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos.

Show notes/Links:

Full, correct context for Daniel Lavery criticizing someone for reporting a home break-in: https://www.reddit.com/r/DearPrudence/comments/lzge8x/comment/gqdp0vz

Troubled Daily Beast piece about Carson Griffith: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gawker-writers-quit-over-editorial-director-carson-griffiths-offensive-tweets-workplace-comments

The articles notes in its subhed: “The new site’s only two full-time writers exited Wednesday in protest of editorial director Carson Griffith’s offensive remarks about everything from race to penis size.”

There is no subsequent explanation of the claim that Griffith made an “offensive remark” about penis size — instead, she forwarded an email thread in which other people were joking about someone’s penis size, but which also contained information pertinent to a potential story idea.

Tani writes: “Kosoff additionally told HR of an exchange in which Griffith took a dismissive stance towards the recruiting of a writer who identifies as non-binary. Kosoff, who was tasked with recruiting some new editorial staff, wrote in a Slack message that she was going to meet with a potential staffer ‘who is a person of color and nonbinary (uses they/them pronouns).’ When she returned from the meeting two hours later, Griffith initially laughed off the preferred pronouns. ‘lol is [name redacted] a girl?’ Griffith asked.”  But Slack logs included in Griffith’s complaint show that when Griffith said that, it wasn’t in the context of responding to this individual being nonbinary, but was rather simply a question about their sex/pronouns: https://postimg.cc/yJwcRZ6k

Now, this screenshot doesn’t include the mention of “who is a person of color and nonbinary (uses they/them pronouns),” so it’s unclear when that was said. But there’s no evidence, within this excerpt, of Griffith responding directly to the applicant being nonbinary.

Tani writes: “The two reporters also relayed to human-resources instances in which they believed Griffith—who holds a management role at the site—expressed an uncomfortably negative attitude on issues related to workplace diversity. In a Slack message reviewed by The Daily Beast, Griffith seemed to brag to Gawker staff that she had gotten them out of a company-wide diversity training session, though neither Kosoff nor Breslaw had asked her to do so. The two ended up attending.”

Griffith claims she did not know this was a diversity meaning, and sure enough in the Slack log in question there is no mention of that aspect of it — she simply says she got them out of most of a long meeting that had been blocked off on their calendar (apologies for low quality): https://postimg.cc/PvqDsz2V/483230fa

ACLU tweet: https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1439259891064004610

Interview in The Atlantic in which Emma Green asks the ACLU’s Louise Melling about language like “pregnant people”: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/pregnant-people-gender-identity/620031/

AOC on AC360 (note that she uses “menstruating person,” not ‘menstruator’ as Jesse says in the show): https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/09/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-texas-abbott-abortion-ban-ac360-intv-sot-vpx.cnn

Transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/acd/date/2021-09-07/segment/01

Lancet tweet/cover: https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1441372277786951681

Who Ellen Pao is: https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/ellen-pao-silicon-valley-sexism-reset-excerpt.html

Her complicated departure: https://www.vox.com/2015/7/10/11614622/pao-out-as-reddit-ceo-co-founder-huffman-takes-over

“The Perverse Incentives That Help Incels Thrive in Tech”: https://twitter.com/ekp/status/991817194987114496 

Even crazier: https://www.wired.com/story/ellen-pao-the-perverse-incentives-that-help-incels-thrive-in-tech/ 

Her crazy NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/opinion/elizabeth-holmes-trial-sexism.html

Actual information about what Holmes did: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/podcasts/the-daily/elizabeth-holmes-trial-theranos-silicon-valley.html

DoJ release noting she was was indicted alongside Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani who is very much male!): https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/theranos-founder-and-former-chief-operating-officer-charged-alleged-wire-fraud-schemes

Tom Cotton op-ed: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html