Gabe is back with the author of “How To Be A Grown Up” Raffi Grinberg to talk about his organization for constructive disagreement, what’s perceived as aggressive in conversations nowadays, and what it means to engage with people who disagree with us. Plus, do politicians on either side actually believe what they say in public or is it just for votes from their base?

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