This week, my guest from the Open Minds Foundation, Jon Atack, and I dive deep into talking about cult education and recovery efforts in Europe and some of the need for historical perspective and understanding in fighting destructive cult behavior and biases. We covered some very important ground in this podcast and I look forward to hearing the feedback on it.

Link to my podcast with Robert Orell.

Link to Ira Chaleff’s book Intelligent Disobedience

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