Sustainability; Can harmful organisations, industries and or political policies that are social systems of communication, sustain themselves for the long term? Systems Sciences say no, they can’t.
The day after John Elkington has recalled his “Triple Bottom Line” management concept, Arend van Campen and Henk Hadders have a dialogue about a new systemic understanding of life and sustainability, which also requires a new kind of thinking - thinking in terms of relationships, patterns, connectedness and context. They explore the role of threshold and limits, connected with two concepts of sustainability: (a) sustainability seen as positive impact on vital capitals and (b) sustainability seen as adaptability
Both are alumni of the Capra Course, developed by Fritjof Capra and based on his book “The
Systems View of Life” which he co-authored with Pier Luigi Luisi. Both Henk and Arend are doing research regarding sustainability management, measurement and reporting.
Arend van Campen is a systems theorist and researches Sustainability of organisations,
industries, political policies which all are in fact ‘social systems of communication’.
He created a measurement tool to map so-called Limits of Reality which he coined: ‘Realimiteit’ to determine and predict which system can be sustained or not.
Henk Hadders studied Dutch Law and is a former executive director of the board of a mental health institute. He is an advocate of “Context-Based Sustainability” and is an advisory board
member of the Center for Sustainable Organizations and advocation partner of the Reporting 3.0 movement.
This interview and dialogue is between two people who are concerned with all life on our Planet, the preservation of our environment and social cohesion. They understand that natural resources are limited and that not only people, but also mother earth is a living system. This conversation may help to understand the urgency of changing harmful, man-made, unsustainable systems, into sustainable ones for everyone today, and for future generations. For more info: www.creazene.org