Jesse, Natalia, and Emmy talk about niceness and how it impedes our ability to be anti-racist, how the work is not yet done, and how it all relates to our tagline - take what you like, and leave the rest. 

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Emmy and Natalia talk about how life is hard and how our brains handle it differently and what our faith has to say about all of it. 

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Jesse, Emmy, and Natalia talk about some of the reactions to last weeks’ episode, and we talk about our listener appreciation month and what fun things we have in store!

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Natalia and Nora are back together again (in Arizona!) and boy did we have some THINGS to talk about. Nora tells us what’s on her tray, talks to her dogs, and tries to convince Natalia to move to Arizona, and Natalia talks about her existential crisis as we linger in pandemic life.

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Natalia and Emmy tackle a listener question and Emmy brings in another new segment based on a tiktok trend and we take quite a detour into the world of pugs. Yes, the dog. 

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Natalia, Jesse, and Emmy tackle a listen question and take turns climbing up on soapboxes about how the good news is twisted into something else. Jesse throws shade at Natalia in fair or foul, and Emmy brings an epic “on this day in Christian history.”

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Emmy and Natalia welcome Kate Bowler to talk about life and faith and hard things and hope in the midst of uncertainty. We laugh, we cry, we solve all the things! Order Kate's new book today: No Cure for Being Human.

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Jesse, Emmy, and Natalia tackle a listener question about deconstruction, Jesse brings CCM to fair or foul, and Emmy unveils a new segment!

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Jesse, Natalia, and Emmy answer a listener question about church and what it would look like if we could start from scratch and build whatever we want.

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Emmy gives us an extra special excerpt from her upcoming book “All Who Are Weary.”

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