Joy and sorrow can coexist. But how do you live within the intersection of the two? KJ Ramsey, Enneagram 4w5 and Author of This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers, joins me for a vulnerable conversation about suffering and faith, the tension between joy and sorrow, and finding redemption when we learn to truly live in the middle.

K.J. Ramsey is a licensed therapist, writer, and recovering idealist who believes sorrow and joy coexist. Her writing has been published in The Huffington Post, Health Central, Catalyst, and Fathom Magazine on the integration of theology, psychology, and spiritual formation. She and her husband live in Denver, Colorado. Follow K.J.'s writing at kjramsey.com and across social media at @kjramseywrites.