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Black grew up in a family of white nationalists, with David Duke as his godfather. But he renounced those views in college and recently has been involved in Black Lives Matter protests. "Everyone has a moral choice to decide," he says.

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) talks about using her past government experience to battle the coronavirus today, her views on the statues debate and what it means to be in the conversation to be Joe Biden's running mate.
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Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), a military veteran who was recently in the news when Tucker Carlson said she "hated America," discusses Trump's failures on the military, coronavirus and race — and what she would do if asked to be Joe Biden's running mate.
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Susan Rice, a former U.N. ambassador and national security adviser, is being considered as a potential running mate for Joe Biden. She discusses not only foreign policy but also the global pandemic and the racial reckoning facing America today.
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Rep. Bass, who is among those being vetted as Joe Biden’s running mate, discusses her work as chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, and her hopes for the future. "The world needs us,” she says.
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Harris, a Democratic senator from California, also discussed during a live taping of Cape Up the coronavirus pandemic and the explosive allegation that Russia was paying bounties to the Taliban for killing U.S. troops.

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Poet Elizabeth Alexander, the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation president who spoke at President Barack Obama’s first inauguration, discusses the importance of the arts to society and has advice for those who have lost loved ones during the covid-19 pandemic.
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Sgt. Maj. of the Army Michael A. Grinston, the highest ranking enlisted member of the U.S. Army, discusses his upbringing in Alabama and why he sometimes felt, being biracial, he was "not black enough for black people."

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"We actually punish black people for being resilient," says Carol Anderson, the author of “White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide.” She lays out a persistent pattern of injustice for African Americans in U.S. history.

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Rep. John Lewis doesn't want today's fighters to give up. "You must be able and prepared to give until you cannot give any more," he says. "We must use our time and our space on this little planet that we call Earth to make a lasting contribution."

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