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  • Forking Cal.com to closed source

    This week I’m joined by Peer Richelsen, co-founder of Cal.com. What if the majority of open source repositories are already compromised and we just don’t know it yet? That’s the theory Peer brings to the table this week. We dig into how AI has flattened the knowledge graph to the point that a 16-year-old can vibe hack a power station just as easily as their mom can vibe code an iOS app, why the reporting culture that has kept open source safe all these years is collapsing under AI generated noise, Cal.com’s move to fork its own codebase and take the sensitive parts private, and the eye opening reality that shipping “$1 of AI tokens for pennies on the dollar” is now a common startup business model.

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    • Coder.com – Secure environments where devs and agents work in parallel. Open by design. Secure by default.
  • Buildkite – You deserve better CI. Buildkite is engineered for frontier scale and trusted by the teams setting the pace.
  • WorkOS – Auth for CLI with AuthKit from WorkOS — Bring secure browser-based login to your terminal apps using the OAuth Device Flow, with the same polished AuthKit experience plus SSO, MFA, and passkeys. Learn more at WorkOS.com and AuthKit.com
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  • Featuring:

    • Peer Richelsen – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
    • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

    Show Notes:

    Editorial disclosure: Adam states in the episode that he is a small seed investor in Cal.com.

    Cal.com and Cal.diy
    • Cal.com is going closed source — here’s why
    • Moving to closed-source: the technical changes
    • Cal.diy on GitHub
    • Cal.diy contributing guide
    • Cal.com
    • Open source, agents, and contribution workflows
      • Swamp Club
      • OpenClaw
      • Mitchell Hashimoto: Vibing a Non-Trivial Ghostty Feature
      • GitHub Agentic Workflows
      • GitHub issue-intent, rationale, confidence, and approvals
      • AI-assisted security
        • Mozilla: Hardening Firefox with Anthropic’s Red Team
        • Mozilla: The zero-days are numbered
        • Anthropic and Mozilla’s Firefox security collaboration
        • Next.js security advisories
        • LiteLLM issue: malicious package and credential stealer
        • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

          1 hr 55 min
        • Postgres at PlanetScale

          Sam Lambert is back after 4 years and he does not hold back! We cover $5 PlanetScale Postgres, the Neki “do-over” of Vitess, agents shipping schema changes through deploy requests, rolling back a 500TB table in seconds, and the very real question of whether to open source any of it. Plus: why he thinks the sleeping, lazy giants should be broken up.

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          • Buildkite – You deserve better CI. Buildkite is engineered for frontier scale and trusted by the teams setting the pace.
        • WorkOS – Auth for CLI with AuthKit from WorkOS — Bring secure browser-based login to your terminal apps using the OAuth Device Flow, with the same polished AuthKit experience plus SSO, MFA, and passkeys. Learn more at WorkOS.com and AuthKit.com
        • Coder.com – Secure environments where devs and agents work in parallel. Open by design. Secure by default.
        • Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes.
        • Featuring:

          • Sam Lambert – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
          • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

          Show Notes:

          PlanetScale products and features
          • PlanetScale Postgres
          • PlanetScale Metal
          • Neki
          • Vitess
          • Database branching
          • Non-blocking schema changes
          • Deploy requests
          • Schema reverts
          • Database Traffic Control
          • Query Insights
          • PlanetScale MCP server
          • PlanetScale Skills
          • Benchmarking Postgres
          • Databases and infrastructure
            • PostgreSQL
            • MySQL
            • NVM Express (NVMe)
            • Amazon Aurora PostgreSQL Limitless Database
            • Amazon Web Services
            • Google Cloud
            • Companies and tools
              • Cursor
              • Y Combinator
              • Kick
              • Square
              • Cash App
              • GitHub
              • Pierre
              • Salesforce
              • Supabase
              • Multigres
              • Talks and prior episodes
                • Sam Lambert: Agents and Infrastructure — Cursor Compile 2026
                • Making the last database you’ll ever need — Founders Talk #85
                • Bringing Vitess to Postgres — Changelog Interviews #651
                • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                  1 hr 43 min
                • Canary tokens and digital tripwires

                  Haroon Meer is back! Haroon is the Founder of Thinkst, the ~50-person bootstrapped company behind Canary and Canarytokens — honeypots and tripwires you sprinkle inside your network and forget about until an attacker touches one. We talk about the AWS API key token attackers just can’t resist trying, the real credit card token backed by an actual bank partnership, Breadcrumbs (their brand-new feature that leads intruders straight to your canaries), a live demo where a hardware Canary becomes a Synology NAS in one click, and how a company with zero outbound sales and no price increase in ten years quietly passed $22.5 million in ARR.

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                  Sponsors:

                  • Buildkite – You deserve better CI. Buildkite is engineered for frontier scale and trusted by the teams setting the pace.
                • WorkOS – Auth for CLI with AuthKit from WorkOS — Bring secure browser-based login to your terminal apps using the OAuth Device Flow, with the same polished AuthKit experience plus SSO, MFA, and passkeys. Learn more at WorkOS.com and AuthKit.com
                • Featuring:

                  • Haroon Meer – Website, LinkedIn, X
                  • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                  Show Notes:

                  • Thinkst
                  • Thinkst Canary
                  • Thinkst Canary Security
                  • Canary Tokens
                  • Canary Tokens Docs
                  • Canary Tokens on GitHub
                  • OpenCanary on GitHub
                  • OpenCanary Docs
                  • TechCrunch: A decade in, bootstrapped Thinkst Canary reaches $20M in ARR without VC funding
                  • Grafana Labs: Canary Tokens, the unsung heroes of security
                  • Canary Love
                  • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                    2 hr 7 min
                  • From open source hits to OpenAI

                    This week I’m talking with Max Stoiber, currently working on ChatGPT’s plugin directory and app platform at OpenAI. We discuss the hundreds of open source projects nobody remembers alongside the big ones like react-boilerplate and styled-components, how Spectrum became part of GitHub and eventually helped shape GitHub Discussions, the founder growth that came from building Stellate, the GraphQL cache that turned into a dual acquisition by Shopify and The Guild, and why ChatGPT apps feel like a new surface for software.

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                    • Coder.com – Secure environments where devs and agents work in parallel. Open by design. Secure by default.
                  • WorkOS – Auth for CLI with AuthKit from WorkOS — Bring secure browser-based login to your terminal apps using the OAuth Device Flow, with the same polished AuthKit experience plus SSO, MFA, and passkeys. Learn more at WorkOS.com and AuthKit.com
                  • Notion – Custom Agents that automate the busywork so your team can focus on real work. Try them free at notion.com/changelog
                  • Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes.
                  • Featuring:

                    • Max Stoiber – Website, GitHub, X
                    • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                    Show Notes:

                    Featured
                    • Max Stoiber
                    • Max Stoiber on GitHub
                    • OpenAI
                    • ChatGPT
                    • Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT
                    • ChatGPT Developer mode
                    • OpenAI Apps SDK examples
                    • OpenAI Apps SDK UI
                    • Model Context Protocol
                    • Max’s open source and community path
                      • styled-components
                      • styled-components on GitHub
                      • react-boilerplate
                      • Max’s open source projects
                      • Spec.fm
                      • GitHub acquires Spectrum
                      • GitHub Discussions
                      • Slack
                      • Circle
                      • GraphQL and Stellate
                        • Stellate
                        • Announcing Stellate, the CDN for GraphQL APIs
                        • GraphCDN is now Stellate and we’ve raised $30M
                        • The Guild acquires Stellate
                        • GraphQL
                        • GraphQL Hive
                        • GraphQL Yoga
                        • GraphiQL
                        • Firebase
                        • Vercel
                        • RethinkDB
                        • Apollo Client
                        • urql
                        • DataLoader
                        • Shopify and storefronts
                          • Shopify
                          • Shopify Liquid reference
                          • Shopify themes
                          • Horizon: 10 new free themes by Shopify
                          • Horizon documentation
                          • Shopify Agentic Storefronts
                          • ChatGPT apps and MCP
                            • Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations
                            • Build with the Apps SDK
                            • Apps in ChatGPT
                            • MCP Apps overview
                            • Zillow
                            • Expedia
                            • Leadership and founder references
                              • COIN feedback framework
                              • Gatsby
                              • GitHub
                              • The Guild
                              • Shopify Engineering
                              • Tools, platforms, and companies mentioned
                                • Node.js
                                • TypeScript
                                • Bun
                                • Zed
                                • Ghostty
                                • Fly.io
                                • DX
                                • Incident.io
                                • Clerk
                                • Raycast
                                • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                                  1 hr 47 min
                                • MCP on Code Mode

                                  This week I’m talking with Matt Carey about Code Mode and how most of us have been thinking about MCP all wrong. Matt works on the Agents SDK and MCP at Cloudflare — we discuss how server-side Code Mode lets one MCP server expose all ~2,500 Cloudflare API endpoints in about 1,000 tokens of context, the dynamic Worker loader that runs model-written code safely in a V8 isolate, Matt’s own workflow with Claude, where memory fits into the future of agents, and his Zaggy git wrapper that keeps agents from force-pushing his repos.

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                                  Sponsors:

                                  • Coder.com – Secure environments where devs and agents work in parallel. Open by design. Secure by default.
                                • Tailscale – Adam loves Tailscale! Easy, secure, identity-based access to anything. Tailscale deploys quickly and enables Zero Trust access to any resource on your network. From CI/CD runners across multi-cloud environments, to SaaS tools and infrastructure, Tailscale connects it all, seamlessly.
                                • RWX – CI/CD platform for high velocity teams. When agents help developers write code in minutes, validation becomes your bottleneck. RWX gives agents programmatic control, sub-second cached builds, and semantic outputs they can act on. No commit required. Just iterate until CI passes, then push.
                                • Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes.
                                • Featuring:

                                  • Matt Carey – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
                                  • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                                  Show Notes:

                                  Featured
                                  • Matt Carey on the Cloudflare blog
                                  • You’ve Been a Bad Agent
                                  • Cloudflare
                                  • Code Mode: give agents an entire API in 1,000 tokens
                                  • Code Mode: the better way to use MCP
                                  • Cloudflare MCP Server
                                  • Cloudflare Agents SDK
                                  • Cloudflare Agents SDK on GitHub
                                  • Cloudflare platform
                                    • Dynamic Workers
                                    • Cloudflare Workers
                                    • Durable Objects
                                    • AI Gateway
                                    • Vectorize
                                    • MCP and code-mode references
                                      • Model Context Protocol
                                      • Introducing the Model Context Protocol
                                      • Code execution with MCP
                                      • CodeAct paper
                                      • GitHub MCP Server
                                      • Datadog MCP Server
                                      • Pydantic Monty
                                      • Coding agents and tools
                                        • Claude Code
                                        • Claude Code voice dictation
                                        • OpenCode
                                        • Cursor
                                        • OpenAI Codex CLI
                                        • Changesets
                                        • Handy
                                        • Agent memory and personal AI
                                          • Granola
                                          • Letta
                                          • Mastra
                                          • Supermemory
                                          • Poke
                                          • Pi coding agent
                                          • Homelab and infrastructure
                                            • Swamp Club
                                            • Proxmox VE
                                            • Tailscale
                                            • 1Password
                                            • K3s
                                            • Pi-hole
                                            • DuckDB
                                            • Apache Parquet
                                            • ClickHouse
                                            • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                                              1 hr 55 min
                                            • Exploring with agents

                                              Today on the show I’m talking with Amelia Wattenberger — designer, data-viz veteran, ex-GitHub Next, and now designing Intent at Augment Code. What if the last 30% of any software project is about to become the hardest part you’ve ever done? That’s the argument Amelia is making today. We discuss the identity crisis developers are having as agents take over the keyboard, the epic redesign of developer tooling in this agent-first world, the arc from autocomplete to chat to CLI back to UI, why Intent treats a workspace as their core primitive not a chat thread, the tradeoffs between one-worktree-per-agent vs. one-worktree-per-task, and why she thinks prototyping just got easier but finishing got harder.

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                                              Sponsors:

                                              • WorkOS – Auth for CLI with AuthKit from WorkOS — Bring secure browser-based login to your terminal apps using the OAuth Device Flow, with the same polished AuthKit experience plus SSO, MFA, and passkeys. Learn more at WorkOS.com and AuthKit.com
                                            • NordLayer – Toggle-ready network security for modern businesses. Get an exclusive offer: up to 22% off NordLayer yearly plans plus 10% on top with the coupon code changelog-10-NORDLAYER. Try it risk-free with a 14-day money-back guarantee at nordlayer.com/thechangelog
                                            • RWX – CI/CD platform for high velocity teams. When agents help developers write code in minutes, validation becomes your bottleneck. RWX gives agents programmatic control, sub-second cached builds, and semantic outputs they can act on. No commit required. Just iterate until CI passes, then push.
                                            • Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes.
                                            • Featuring:

                                              • Amelia Wattenberger – Website, GitHub, X
                                              • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                                              Show Notes:

                                              • GitHub Copilot — the launch that kicked off this era (mentioned ~12×)
                                              • GitHub Next — GitHub’s R&D team; where Amelia worked
                                              • GitHub Actions
                                              • Intent — Augment Code’s new workspace-first agent app that Amelia is building (the core product discussion)
                                              • Augie — Augment’s agent
                                              • Claude Code
                                              • Codex
                                              • Notion AI
                                              • VS Code
                                              • Incus — system-level containers/VMs; the Canonical LXD fork
                                              • Proxmox — Adam’s hypervisor platform for the sandbox
                                              • ZFS — storage layer Incus is built on
                                              • Bun — JavaScript runtime
                                              • Rust
                                              • Go
                                              • Ruby on Rails
                                              • SvelteKit
                                              • Svelte
                                              • TypeScript
                                              • TanStack Start
                                              • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                                                1 hr 37 min
                                              • From Tailnet to platform

                                                Adam talks with Tailscale co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer David Carney about where Tailscale is headed next: TSIDP, TSNet, multiple tailnets, and Aperture. They get into clickless auth (via TSIDP), TSNet apps, multiple tailnets for isolation and control, and Aperture, Tailscale’s private AI gateway for API key management, observability, and agent security.

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                                                Sponsors:

                                                • Augment Code – Adam loves “Auggie” – Augment Code’s CLI that brings Augment’s context engine and powerful AI reasoning anywhere your code goes. From building alongside you in the terminal to any part of your development workflow.
                                              • NordLayer – Toggle-ready network security for modern businesses. Get an exclusive offer: up to 22% off NordLayer yearly plans plus 10% on top with the coupon code changelog-10-NORDLAYER. Try it risk-free with a 14-day money-back guarantee at nordlayer.com/thechangelog
                                              • Squarespace – Turn your expertise into a business with the all-in-one platform for websites, services, and getting paid. Use code CHANGELOG to save 10% on your first website purchase.
                                              • Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes.
                                              • Featuring:

                                                • David Carney – Website, GitHub, X
                                                • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                                                Show Notes:

                                                Send an email to David ~> [email protected]

                                                Mentioned in this episode
                                                • Tailscale
                                                • Aperture by Tailscale
                                                • TSIDP
                                                • TSNet
                                                • Multiple tailnets
                                                • Tailnet policy file syntax
                                                • Model Context Protocol (MCP)
                                                • MCP specification
                                                • Proxmox VE
                                                • Incus
                                                • OIDC / OpenID Connect
                                                • OAuth 2.0
                                                • Okta
                                                • Microsoft Entra ID
                                                • Google Workspace
                                                • Keycloak
                                                • Salesforce
                                                • Anthropic
                                                • Amazon Bedrock
                                                • Oso
                                                • Cerbos
                                                • Go
                                                • GopherCon
                                                • Simon Willison
                                                • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                                                  1 hr 43 min
                                                • Opus 4.5 changed everything

                                                  Burke Holland works on GitHub Copilot by day and codes with his AI agents always. Early January, Burke posted about how Opus 4.5 changed everything. We were all still buzzing from the holiday-season 2x usage bump Claude gave us, and Opus 4.5 felt like a genuine step function in capability. Burke and I get into all the details. Opus 4.5 may have started the fire, but GPT-5.3 Codex is certainly living up to the hype.

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                                                  Sponsors:

                                                  • Augment Code – Adam loves “Auggie” – Augment Code’s CLI that brings Augment’s context engine and powerful AI reasoning anywhere your code goes. From building alongside you in the terminal to any part of your development workflow.
                                                • Squarespace – Turn your expertise into a business with the all-in-one platform for websites, services, and getting paid. Use code CHANGELOG to save 10% on your first website purchase.
                                                • Notion – Custom Agents that automate the busywork so your team can focus on real work. Try them free at notion.com/changelog
                                                • Featuring:

                                                  • Burke Holland – Website, GitHub, X
                                                  • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                                                  Show Notes:

                                                  • Opus 4.5 is going to change everything
                                                  • Jon Gjengset Explains Rust 2026
                                                  • How we rebuilt Next.js with AI in one week Rebuilding Next.js using AI in a single week
                                                  • The era of the Small Giant (Changelog #673)
                                                  • Layercode — Voice AI infrastructure for TypeScript developers
                                                  • Diffs — An open source diff and code rendering library
                                                  • Pierre Computer Company
                                                  • Code Storage
                                                  • Entire — Developer platform from former GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke
                                                  • Tigris Data
                                                  • @traskjd tweet
                                                  • GitHub Copilot
                                                  • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                                                    1 hr 44 min
                                                  • Selling SDKs in the era of many Claudes

                                                    Steve Ruiz joins us for a deep-dive on tldraw (a very good free whiteboard) and the business he’s built selling SDKs that help others build very good whiteboards (and more) with tldraw’s high-performance web canvas.

                                                    Along the way, we discuss the excitement/fear we share about keeping our agents busy, how SDK and infra companies are affected differently by agentic software than SaaS companies, how Steve is approaching the coming era of internal tooling, what will happen when we equip LLMs with an infinite canvas, and more.

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                                                    Sponsors:

                                                    • Augment Code – Adam loves “Auggie” – Augment Code’s CLI that brings Augment’s context engine and powerful AI reasoning anywhere your code goes. From building alongside you in the terminal to any part of your development workflow.
                                                  • NordLayer – Toggle-ready network security for modern businesses. Get an exclusive offer: up to 22% off NordLayer yearly plans plus 10% on top with the coupon code changelog-10-NORDLAYER. Try it risk-free with a 14-day money-back guarantee at nordlayer.com/thechangelog
                                                  • Squarespace – A website makes it real! Use code CHANGELOG to save 10% on your first website purchase.
                                                  • Featuring:

                                                    • Steve Ruiz – Website, LinkedIn, X
                                                    • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
                                                    • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                                                    Show Notes:

                                                    • tldraw.com
                                                    • tldraw.dev
                                                    • Remarkable: the paper tablets for focused work
                                                    • Agent starter kit • tldraw docs
                                                    • tldraw fairies
                                                    • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                                                      1 hr 51 min
                                                    • Building the machine that builds the machine

                                                      Paul Dix joins us to discuss the InfluxDB co-founder’s journey adapting to an agentic world. Paul sent his AI coding agents on various real-world side quests and shares all his findings: what’s going to prod, what’s not, and why he’s (at least for a bit) back to coding by hand.

                                                      Update: He’s back to letting the AIs write code, but with a lot more oversight. For now…

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                                                      Sponsors:

                                                      • Namespace – Speed up your development and testing workflows using your existing tools. (Much) faster GitHub actions, Docker builds, and more. At an unbeatable price.
                                                    • Tiger Data – Postgres for Developers, devices, and agents The data platform trusted by hundreds of thousands from IoT to Web3 to AI and more.
                                                    • Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. Check out the speedrun to get started in minutes.
                                                    • Featuring:

                                                      • Paul Dix – GitHub, X
                                                      • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
                                                      • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                                                      Show Notes:

                                                      • Build the machine that builds the machine
                                                      • Paul dix on X: “2026: the great engineering divergence”
                                                      • InfluxData
                                                      • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                                                        1 hr 37 min

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