Changelog Interviews

Changelog Interviews

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  • The rise of Rocky Linux

    This week we’re talking with Gregory Kurtzer about Rocky Linux. Greg is the founder of the CentOS project, which recently shifted its strategy and has the Linux community scrambling. Rocky Linux aims to continue where the CentOS project left off — to provide a free and open source community-driven enterprise grade Linux operating system. We discuss the history of the CentOS project, how it fell under Red Hat’s control, the recent shift in Red Hat’s strategy with CentOS, and how Rocky Linux is designed to be 100% bug-for-bug compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

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  • Featuring:

    • Gregory M. Kurtzer – Website, GitHub, X
    • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
    • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

    Show Notes:

    • Greg on The Changelog #336
    • Rocky Linux website
    • Get Involved
    • The Register on the Rocky Linux launch
    • Regarding the name “Rocky Linux” - The new project’s name is a tribute to CentOS co-founder Rocky McGaugh. “He is no longer with us, so as a H/T to him, who never got to see the success that CentOS came to be, I introduce to you… Rocky Linux,” said Kurtzer.

      Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

      1 hr 27 min
    • What the web could be (in 2021 and beyond)

      Vercel CEO Guillermo Rauch and JS Party panelist Amal Hussein join Jerod to discuss the state of the web platform! We opine on why it’s so important and unique, where it stands today, what modern web development looks like, and where the whole thing is headed in 2021 and beyond.

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      • Linode – Get $100 in free credit to get started on Linode – Linode is our cloud of choice and the home of Changelog.com. Head to linode.com/changelog OR text CHANGELOG to 474747 to get instant access to that $100 in free credit.
    • LaunchDarkly – Test in production! Deploy code at any time, even if a feature isn’t ready to be released to your users. Wrap code in feature flags to get the safety to test new features and infrastructure in prod without impacting the wrong end users.
    • Render – Get $100 in free credit to give Render a try! Plus they’re going to assign a world-class engineer to your account to provide guidance and answer any questions. Render is built for modern applications and offers everything you need out-of-the-box — one-click scaling, zero-downtime deploys, built-in SSL, private networking, managed databases, secrets and config management, persistent block storage, and Infrastructure-as-Code. Send an email to [email protected] to get your free credits.
    • Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com.
    • Featuring:

      • Guillermo Rauch – Website, GitHub, X
      • Amal Hussein – GitHub, X
      • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

      Show Notes:

      • Guillermo on The Changelog #213
      • Guillermo on JS Party #122
      • Web Vitals
      • Next.js
      • Nuxt.js
      • SvelteKit
      • Temporal
      • AssemblyKit
      • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

        1 hr 7 min
      • State of the “log” 2020

        It’s the end of 2020 and on this year’s “State of the log” episode Adam and Jerod carry on the tradition of looking back at our favorite moments of the year – we talk through our most popular episodes, our personal favorites and must listen episodes, top posts from Changelog Posts, and what we have in the works for 2021 and beyond.

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        • New Relic – Observability made simple. New Relic One is an observability platform built to help engineers create more perfect software — Telemetry Data Platform, Full-Stack Observability, Applied Intelligence. Get one (1) user and 100GB per month, totally free. Forever.
      • DigitalOcean – Get apps to market faster. Build, deploy, and scale apps quickly using a simple, fully managed solution. DigitalOcean handles the infrastructure, app runtimes and dependencies, so that you can push code to production in just a few clicks. Try it free with $100 credit at do.co/changelog.
      • Equinix – Get $500 in free credit to play with plus a rad t-shirt at info.equinixmetal.com/changelog. Equinix Metal is built from the ground up to empower developers with low-latency, high performance infrastructure anywhere.
      • Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com.
      • Featuring:

        • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
        • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

        Show Notes:

        The Changelog’s most popular episodes of 2020:

        • Good tech debt featuring Jon Thornton
        • The ONE thing every dev should know with Jessica Kerr
        • The 10x developer myth with William Nichols
        • What’s so exciting about Postgres with Craig Kerstiens
        • Meet Algo, your personal VPN in the cloud featuring Dan Guido
        • Jerod’s personal favorites of 2020:

          • Laws for hackers to live by with Dave Kerr
          • Engineer to manager and back again with Lauren Tan
          • Must listen: The developer’s guide to content creation with Stephanie Morillo
          • Adam’s personal favorites of 2020:

            • Designing and building HEY with Jonas Downey
            • It’s OK to make money from your open source with Zeno Rocha
            • Must listen: Securing the web with Josh Aas, Shipping work that matters with Ryan Singer, Leading GitHub to a $7.5 billion acquisition with Jason Warner
            • Top Changelog posts of 2020:

              • Monoliths are the future (Kelsey Hightower)
              • Slaying Changelog’s compilation beast (Owen Bickford)
              • Git is simply too hard (Mislav Marohnic)
              • There’s a good reason why experienced devs say “it depends” so often (Jerod Santo)
              • Other links mentioned:

                • Backstage #10: YouTube made me do it with Owen Bickford
                • The Changelog #362: Machine powered refactoring with AST’s featuring Amal Hussein
                • The Changelog #420: The Kollected Kode Vicious with George Neville-Neil
                • Founders Talk #60: Leading data-driven software teams and products
                • featuring Travis Kimmel
                • Let’s set up a free, personal VPN in the cloud with Algo VPN
                • 4 sources of endless content ideas 💡 by Stephanie Morillo
                • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                  1 hr 23 min
                • You can FINALLY use JSHint for evil

                  Today we welcome Mike Pennisi into our Maintainer Spotlight. This is a special flavor of The Changelog where we go deep into a maintainer’s story. Mike is the maintainer of JSHint which, since its creation in 2011, was encumbered by a license that made it very hard for legally-conscious teams to use the project. The license was the widely-used MIT Expat license, but it included one additional clause: “The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.” Because of this clause, many teams could not use JSHint.

                  Today’s episode with Mike covers the full gamut of JSHint’s journey and how non-free licensing can poison the well of free software.

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                  • Retool – Retool makes it super simple to build back-office apps in hours, not days. The tool is is built by engineers, explicitly for engineers. Learn more and try it for free at retool.com/changelog
                • DigitalOcean – Get apps to market faster. Build, deploy, and scale apps quickly using a simple, fully managed solution. DigitalOcean handles the infrastructure, app runtimes and dependencies, so that you can push code to production in just a few clicks. Try it free with $100 credit at do.co/changelog.
                • Equinix – Get $500 in free credit to play with plus a rad t-shirt at info.equinixmetal.com/changelog. Equinix Metal is built from the ground up to empower developers with low-latency, high performance infrastructure anywhere.
                • New Relic – Observability made simple. New Relic One is an observability platform built to help engineers create more perfect software — Telemetry Data Platform, Full-Stack Observability, Applied Intelligence. Get one (1) user and 100GB per month, totally free. Forever.
                • Featuring:

                  • Mike Pennisi – Website, GitHub, X
                  • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
                  • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                  Show Notes:

                  • You May Finally Use JSHint for Evil
                  • 2020 Relicensing
                  • JSHint: Watching the Ship Sink
                  • JSHint: Dug In
                  • JSHint: Asking Nicely
                  • JSHint: Wrestling it Free
                  • Karen Sandler from the FSC on The Changelog
                  • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                    1 hr 20 min
                  • Coding without your hands

                    What do you do when you make a living typing on a keyboard, but you can no longer do that for more than a few minutes at a time? Switch careers?! Not Josh Comeau. He decided to learn from others who have come before him and develop his own solution for coding without his hands. Spoiler Alert: he uses weird noises and some fancy eye tracking tech.

                    On this episode Josh tells us all about the fascinating system he developed, how it changed his perspective on work & life, and where he’s going from here. Plus we mix in some CSS & JS chat along the way.

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                    • Linode – Get $100 in free credit to get started on Linode – Linode is our cloud of choice and the home of Changelog.com. Head to linode.com/changelog OR text CHANGELOG to 474747 to get instant access to that $100 in free credit.
                  • Retool – Retool makes it super simple to build back-office apps in hours, not days. The tool is is built by engineers, explicitly for engineers. Learn more and try it for free at retool.com/changelog
                  • New Relic – Observability made simple. New Relic One is an observability platform built to help engineers create more perfect software. Get one (1) user and 100GB per month, totally free. Forever.
                  • Equinix – Get $500 in free credit to play with plus a rad t-shirt at info.equinixmetal.com/changelog. Equinix Metal is built from the ground up to empower developers with low-latency, high performance infrastructure anywhere.
                  • Featuring:

                    • Josh Comeau – Website, GitHub, X
                    • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
                    • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                    Show Notes:

                    • Josh on hands-free coding
                    • Jerod on his RSI battle
                    • The Mindbody Prescription
                    • Talon Software
                    • CSS for JavaScript Developers
                    • Tobii Eye Tracker 5
                    • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                      1 hr 19 min
                    • Growing as a software engineer

                      Gergely Orosz joined Adam for a conversation about his journey as a software engineer. Gergely recently stepped down from his role as Engineering Manager at Uber to pursue his next big thing. But, that next big thing isn’t quite clear to him yet. So, in the meantime, he has been using this break to write a few books and blog more so he can share what he’s learned along the way. He’s also validating some startup ideas he has on platform engineering. His first book is available to read now — it’s called The Tech Resume Inside Out and offers a practical guide to writing a tech resume written by the people who do the resume screening. Both topics gave us quite a bit to talk about.

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                      Sponsors:

                      • Retool – Retool makes it super simple to build back-office apps in hours, not days. The tool is is built by engineers, explicitly for engineers. Learn more and try it for free at retool.com/changelog
                    • DigitalOcean – Get apps to market faster. Build, deploy, and scale apps quickly using a simple, fully managed solution. DigitalOcean handles the infrastructure, app runtimes and dependencies, so that you can push code to production in just a few clicks. Try it free with $100 credit at do.co/changelog.
                    • New Relic – Observability made simple. New Relic One is an observability platform built to help engineers create more perfect software. Get one (1) user and 100GB per month, totally free. Forever.
                    • Equinix – Equinix Metal is built from the ground up to empower developers with low-latency, high performance infrastructure anywhere. Get $500 in free credit to play with plus a rad t-shirt at info.equinixmetal.com/changelog
                    • Featuring:

                      • Gergely Orosz – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
                      • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                      Show Notes:

                      • Gergely’s tweet about the pod we did with Spotify about Backstage
                      • Gergely’s blog
                      • Book #1: The Tech Resume Inside Out
                      • Book #2: The Software Engineer’s Guidebook
                      • My Unforgettable Uber Ride
                      • Gergely’s Indie Hackers post: 14 days, $14K in sales, 1,000 customers and what worked for me
                      • Things I’ve learned transitioning from engineer to engineering manager
                      • The Changelog #415: Spotify’s open platform for shipping at scale
                      • with Jim Haughwout and Stefan Ålund
                      • Spotify’s open platform for building developer portals
                      • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                        1 hr 21 min
                      • The future of Mac

                        We have a BIG show for you today. We’re talking about the future of the Mac. Coming off of Apple’s “One more thing.” event to launch the Apple M1 chip and M1 powered Macs, we have a two part show giving you the perspective of Apple as well as a Mac app developer on the future of the Mac.

                        Part 1 features Tim Triemstra from Apple. Tim is the Product Marketing Manager for Developer Technologies. He’s been at Apple for 15 years and the team he manages is responsible for developer tools and technologies including Xcode, Swift Playgrounds, the Swift language, and UNIX tools.

                        Part 2 features Ken Case from The Omni Group. Ken is the Founder and CEO of The Omni Group and they’re well known for their Omni Productivity Suite including OmniFocus, OmniPlan, OmniGraffle, and OmniOutliner – all of which are developed for iOS & Mac.

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                        Sponsors:

                        • Linode – Get $100 in free credit to get started on Linode – our cloud of choice and the home of Changelog.com. Head to linode.com/changelog
                      • New Relic – Observability made simple. New Relic One is an observability platform built to help engineers create more perfect software. Get one (1) user and 100GB per month, totally free. Forever.
                      • Equinix – Equinix Metal is built from the ground up to empower developers with low-latency, high performance infrastructure anywhere. Get $500 in free credit to play with plus a rad t-shirt at info.equinixmetal.com/changelog
                      • LaunchDarkly – Power experimentation at any scale. Fast and reliable feature management for the modern enterprise.
                      • Featuring:

                        • Tim Triemstra – LinkedIn, X
                        • Ken Case – Website, GitHub, X
                        • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
                        • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                        Show Notes:

                        • Apple’s “One more thing” event
                        • Apple’s M1 chip
                        • macOS Big Sur
                        • Rene Ritchie - M1 Benchmarks & Experience — MacBook Pro, Air, Mac mini!
                        • The Omni Group
                        • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                          1 hr 18 min
                        • The Kollected Kode Vicious

                          We’re joined by George Neville-Neil, aka Kode Vicious. Writing as Kode Vicious for ACMs Queue magazine, George Neville-Neil has spent the last 15+ years sharing incisive advice and fierce insights for everyone who codes, works with code, or works with coders. These columns have been among the most popular items published in ACMs Queue magazine and it was only a matter of time for a book to emerge from his work. His book, The Kollected Kode Vicious, is a compilation of the most popular items he’s published over the years, plus a few extras you can only find in the book. We cover all the details in this episode.

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                          Sponsors:

                          • Linode – Get $100 in free credit to get started on Linode – our cloud of choice and the home of Changelog.com. Head to linode.com/changelog
                        • Retool – Retool makes it super simple to build back-office apps in hours, not days. The tool is is built by engineers, explicitly for engineers. Learn more and try it for free at retool.com/changelog
                        • Equinix – Equinix Metal is built from the ground up to empower developers with low-latency, high performance infrastructure anywhere. Get $500 in free credit to play with plus a rad t-shirt at info.equinixmetal.com/changelog
                        • LaunchDarkly – Power experimentation at any scale. Fast and reliable feature management for the modern enterprise.
                        • Featuring:

                          • George Neville-Neil – GitHub, X
                          • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
                          • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                          Show Notes:

                          • Kode Vicious on ACM Queue
                          • (Book) The Kollected Kode Vicious
                          • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                            1 hr 30 min
                          • Inside 2020's infrastructure for Changelog.com

                            We’re talking with Gerhard Lazu, our resident SRE, ops, and infrastructure expert about the evolution of Changelog’s infrastructure, what’s new in 2020, and what we’re planning for in 2021. The most notable change? We’re now running on Linode Kubernetes Engine (LKE)! We even test the resilience of this new infrastructure by purposefully taking the site down. That’s near the end, so don’t miss it!

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                            Sponsors:

                            • Linode – Get $100 in free credit to get started on Linode – our cloud of choice and the home of Changelog.com. Head to linode.com/changelog
                          • Teamistry – Teamistry is a podcast that tells the stories of teams who work together in new and unexpected ways to achieve remarkable things. Season 2 of Teamistry is out now. Search for Teamistry anywhere you listen to podcasts, or head here to subsribe.
                          • Equinix – Equinix Metal is built from the ground up to empower developers with low-latency, high performance infrastructure anywhere. Get $500 in free credit to play with plus a rad t-shirt at info.equinixmetal.com/changelog
                          • LaunchDarkly – Power experimentation at any scale. Fast and reliable feature management for the modern enterprise.
                          • Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com.
                          • Featuring:

                            • Gerhard Lazu – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
                            • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
                            • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                            Show Notes:

                            Read Gerhard’s post covering all the details for Changelog’s 2020 and beyond infrastructure.

                            • The Changelog #254: Deploying Changelog.com with Gerhard Lazu
                            • The new Changelog.com setup for 2019
                            • Inside the 2019 infrastructure for Changelog.com
                            • grafana.changelog.com - Compute Resources / Workload in Grafana
                            • Join Linode Green Light to get early access and test new Linode products before they hit the market, provide valuable feedback to influence product direction, and become part of a community of developers helping us build the cloud that works for you.
                            • fluxcd/flux
                            • Introducing Flux
                            • Check out Fernand Galiana and K9s
                            • Bitwarden
                            • Grafana Labs
                            • Keel
                            • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                              1 hr 22 min
                            • Maintaining the massive success of Envoy

                              Today we welcome Matt Klein into our Maintainer Spotlight. Matt is the creator of Envoy, born inside of Lyft. It’s an edge and service proxy designed for cloud-native applications. Envoy was unexpectedly popular, and completely changed the way Lyft considers what and how to open source. While Matt has had several opportunities to turn Envoy into a commercial open source company, he didn’t. In today’s conversation with Matt we learn why he choose a completely different path for the project.

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                              Sponsors:

                              • Tidelift – The first managed open source subscription helps you develop apps with components that just work—including comprehensive security updates, active maintenance, and accurate licensing. And the best part of all—with the Tidelift Subscription, you help open source maintainers get paid for their work. Learn more at tidelift.com.

                              Featuring:

                              • Matt Klein – Website, GitHub, X
                              • Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
                              • Jerod Santo – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

                              Show Notes:

                              • “4 years ago Envoy became OSS”
                              • Optimizing impact: why I will not start an Envoy platform company
                              • The (broken) economics of OSS
                              • #envoycon2020
                              • CNCF graduated project
                              • envoyproxy.io
                              • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

                                1 hr

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