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Storie Madrid first connected with Ria at Cider Chat via Twitter. In this niche market it is easy to get close to people of similar interests and passions. Storie has recently found out that she was gluten intolerant and was jumping down into the cider rabbit hole! Husband Erik was a craft beer fan who didn't need much convincing to get on the cider bus and join the fun. In 2018 Storie accompanied Ria on the first ever Totally Cider Tour to Normandy, France. In 2019, she and Erik went on the Monterey Cider Tour in California. They were on a mission to open a brick and mortar cider shop in Seattle. And now they are the proud owners of the online Cider Retail Store: Press Then Press!

At the CiderCon 2023, they were recognized by the American Cider Association as Cider Retailer of the Year!

Chris who founded the company a few years back approached the Madrids and struck a deal. The enterprising couple along with Storie's sister Ashley (who is a chef by trade) were able to hit the ground running and work through the pandemic offering select cider options.

Press Then Press offers ciders from the Pacific Northwest, which includes British Columbia (Canada) - the rest of the US and abroad. There is a wide assortment of offerings and as such they are able to take online purchases of ciders one step further.

Want to do a tasting from a wide range of makers - The Madrids and Sister Ashley can set you up with a mix box, or a vertical tasting of one particular style. Their aim is to please your palate, so don't be shy about asking for a certain mix up of ciders. They can deliver your request with a smile!

Erik is on the Board of Directors of City Fruit a non profit that helps manage urban orchard in public parks and private homeowners. They collect upwards to 50,000 pounds of fresh fruit from the region. A % of Press Then Press's proceeds go to City Fruit.

Via the non profit, no fruit is wasted, especially apples and pears that are too bitter to be eaten. Those select pomes get sold to local makers to ferment making it a win/win for all. There is even an annual party and the two business share warehouse space making Press Then Press smell like a full on cider house in the fall.

Contact for Press Then Press

• Website: https://www.pressthenpress.com/

• Fermentis - Yeast and Fermentation Solutions for Cidermakers.

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Enjoy this roundtable discussion moderated by Glen Koehler with 4 holistic practitioners. This roundtable was recorded at Maine Apple Camp 2022.

• Eric Shatt - Redbyrd Cider Biodynamic Orchard in New York
• Kevin Clark - Rose Hill Farm, New York
• Jason Maanka - Know your Roots, New York
• Laura Seiger - Maine Heritage Orchard

(l to R) Glen, Jason, Eric, Laura, Kevin

• Maine Apple Camp is held biannually. The next camp will take place in 2024.
• It is hosted by the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association.
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• 202: Walkabout at Redbyrd Orchard | FLX
• Chicago Cider Summit February 4, 2023 - Live Streamed at Cider Chat YouTube Channel 1-2, 5:30-6:30.

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The week of January 30th - February 4th was packed with cider related events all based in Chicago. CiderCon, the annual conference hosted by the American Cider Association kicked off on Tuesday the 31st with Cider Tours. In this chat Ria took two tours: the Bronzeville Tour in the morning and the Historic Tavern Tour in the afternoon.

On Wednesday the 1st of February workshops began and Ria interviewed upcoming guests on Cider Chat!

Later that same day the Cider Share is held, which is a time for commercial makers to taste a bevy of ciders from fellow makers.

Ria is the Producer and Host of Cider Chat

Mentions in this Chat

• Contact for Liz Garibray - Bespoke Experiences

• Press then Press - an online retailer specializing in cider
• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

• Bottles on My Desk - a live Stream with Cider Chat Producer and Emcee Ria Windcaller. Subscribe to be notified when the next "Bottles on My Desk" goes live at the Cider Chat YouTube Channel
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It appears it is not a question of if, when historical varieties are no longer with us as climate change and other mitigation factors such as land development and disease threaten prize pomes! This topic is discussed in this episode by a panel of well versed pome fans.

• Matt Kaminsky who is also known as Gnarly Pippins is the moderator.
  • Contact for Matt Kaminsky
    • Website: https://gnarlypippins.com/
    • Listen to Matt on episode 346 on Why Pomological Exhibitions Matter

• Dan Newman hails from Palermo, Maine and has a keen interest in Pears from Maine. He is active in historical research that looks at records from county fairs. Each fair has the year and apple prized, and thus Dan can track what was grown where and when and by whom.
  • Contact for Dan Newman - write to mailto:[email protected]

• Dan Bussey has been growing heirloom apples for 42 years since 1980. He is the author of "The Illustrated History of Apples in the United States and Canada" It is a 7 volume encyclopedia on apples. The book is now on sale for $150 for the set. When released in 2016 it was $320.
  • Contact for Dan Bussey
    • Website: https://www.silverwoodpark.org/project/heirloom-apple-orchard/

• John Bunker was last on Cider Chat in episode 352 & 353. He is the Founder of the Maine Heritage Orchard & FEDCO Trees, Author of numerous books on Apples and is a well known Apple Detective.
  • Contact for John Bunker
    • Website: Out on the Limb Apples
    • Listen to John on episode 352: Apples in Gravel | Maine Heritage Orchard and episode 353 Apple Historian John Bunker Q&A | Maine Apple Camp

• Eliza Greenman is a fruit explorer and horticultural historian.
  • Contact for Eliza Greenman
    • Website: https://elizapples.com/
    • Listen to Eliza on episode 349: The Super Powers of Bradford Pears

• Lydia Pendergast - works with the Apple Team at the College of the Atlantic and interns with the Maine Heritage Orchard
  • Contact for Lydia Pendergast - write to mailto:[email protected]

• Maine Apple Camp is held biannually. The next camp will take place in 2024.
• It is hosted by the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association.
• Go to MOFGA.org and join today!

Mentions in this Chat

• Press then Press - an online retailer specializing in cider
• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

• CiderCon 2023 - February 1-3, 2023
• Chicago Cider Summit February 4, 2023 - Live Stream at Cider Chat YouTube Channel 1-2pm , 5:30-6:30pm CST.
• Bottles on My Desk - a live Stream with Cider Chat Producer and Emcee Ria Windcaller. Subscribe to be notified when the next "Bottles on My Desk" goes live at the Cider Chat YouTube Channel
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John Bunker is a self identified Apple Historian and an Apple Detective, Author of numerous books on the topic of Apples and Founder of FEDCO Trees. In the previous podcast episode #352 John delivers an overview on the Successes and Challenges of the Maine Heritage Orchard over the past 10 years. This episode 353 is the Q&A that followed that address. Typically, it would be recommend that you listen to episode 352 before delving into the Q&A, but even out of sequence one will find John's witty and insightful comments on a range of apple topics worth a listen.

John Bunker

• Time line of planning and planting Trees
  • What John recommends doing differently
• Found stories of people and migration patterns about the collection
• Questioned if John knew of dump sites that are being used in this type of format
• John helps to define Heirloom/Heritage Apples
• Genetics of Apples and seeds
• Climate change and the future of preserving rare vareities
• Legacy in relationship to the work of apple today for tomorrow.

• Maine Apple Camp is held biannually. The next camp will take place in 2024.
• It is hosted by the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association.
• Go to MOFGA.org and join today!

Contact info for John Bunker

• Website: Super Chilly Farm
• eMail: [email protected]

Episode 352 is Part 1 to this Q&A with John Bunker on the Maine Heritage Orchard.

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• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

• CiderCon 2023 - February 1-3, 2023
• Chicago Cider Summit February 4, 2023 - Live Stream at Cider Chat YouTube Channel 1-2, 5:30-6:30.
• Bottles on My Desk - a live Stream with Cider Chat Producer and Emcee Ria Windcaller. Subscribe to be notified when the next "Bottles on My Desk" goes live at the Cider Chat YouTube Channel
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This is Part 1 with John Bunker, who is both an author, Founder of FEDCO Trees, an Apple Historian and a key person behind the Maine Heritage Orchard. In this recording her the full presentation from John as recorded at Maine Apple Camp in August of 2022.

John Bunker speaking at Maine Apple Camp

John Bunker moved to Maine when he was 21 years old and immediately fell for the state and collecting apples.

In the late 70s - early 80s he began to learned about Maine's historic apple varieties. Seeking out apples requires a bit of stealth and an out going personality

1. Seek out mentors

2. Do cold calls - when seeing apples along the road

3. Introduced myself as "Hi I am John Bunker. You won't believe this but I am an apple historian."

4. Give talks at Garden Society and such and charge nothing. John bunker has a sliding scale from 1 mil to zero dollars for his talks.

5. Pass out Wanted Posters

6. Fairs and Events: Do a display of apples - it becomes a magnet for people to see.

7. Apple Identification for no charge and also payment

] John Bunker

• The history of the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardners Association (MOFGA).
• The orchards at the Common Ground Fair
• Reclaiming land such as gravel pits
• The History of the Maine Heritage Orchard
• What is needed to sustain the Maine Heritage Orchard

• Apple Camp is held biannually. The next camp will take place in 2024.
• It is hosted by the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association.
• Go to MOFGA.org and join today!

Contact info for John Bunker

• Website: Super Chilly Farm
• eMail: [email protected]

Episode 353 will feature Part 2 with John Bunker on the Maine Heritage Orchard.

• This episode will go live on January 25, 2023
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Mentions in this Chat

• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

• CiderCon 2023 - February 1-3, 2023
  • sign up now for the January 31th Chicago Cider Tours
• Chicago Cider Summit February 4, 2023 - Live Stream at Cider Chat YouTube Channel 1-2, 5:30-6:30.
• Bottles on My Desk - a live Stream with Cider Chat Producer and Emcee Ria Windcaller. Subscribe to be notified when the next "Bottles on My Desk" goes live at the Cider Chat YouTube Channel
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Kris Hogg formally of Perennial Cider Bar in Maine moderates this panel discussion that was held at the Maine Apple Camp in August of 2022. The topics are wide ranging:

• cultivars/apples that you really like

• anything that you haven't tried yet that you would like to experiment with?

• life work balance from making to orchard care

• yeast only using wild or also culture yeast in ciders?

• cider as art vs science

• Is there a Maine Cider Style?

• David Buchann | Portersfield Cider
  • Website: https://www.portersfieldcider.com/
  • Address: 255 Elmwood Road Pownal, ME, 04069

David Buchann | Portersfield Cider

• Jared Carr | Cornish Cider Company
  • Website: https://cornishcidercompany.com/
  • Address: 135 High Road Cornish, Maine 04020 USA

Jared Carr | Cornish Cider Company

• Zak Kaiser | Absolem Cider Company
  • Website: https://www.absolemcider.com/
  • Address: 799 Winthrop Center Road Winthrop, Maine 04364

Zak Kaiser | Absolem Cider

• Jon Stein | Fogtown Brewing Company
  • Website: https://www.fogtownbrewing.com/
  • Address: Two locations: Ellsworth and Bar Harbor Maine!

Jon Stein | Fogtown Brewing Co.

• Apple Camp is held biannually. The next camp will take place in 2024.
• It is hosted by the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association.
• Go to MOFGA.org and join today!

Bonus audio - 30 minute Q&A from this roundtable at the Cider Chat Patreon page. Join today and help keep #ciderGoingUP

Mentions in this Chat

• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

• CiderCon 2023 - February 1-3, 2023
  • sign up now for the January 31th Chicago Cider Tours
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This episode marks the 350th episode of this weekly podcast and the end of Season 7. The Nose and Ria sat down for a dinner chat and looked over the past season. The dinner was designed to be paired with a cider called Heirloom for an Austin cidery called Texas Keeper. In true Cider Chat style this delicious cider was one of many.

• Hierloom, Texas Keeper Cider |Texas
• Pommeau du Normandie from Domaine du Manoir de Montreuil |France
• Maple Sugar Liqueour from Flag Hill Distillery and Winery |New Hampshire
• Gigglejuice from Duckchicken Cider | London

• Download and listen to all past episodes mentions in this chat by going to the Cider Chat podcast page.
• This epsiodes ends Season 7 of Cider Chat. Find all the Season's at the podcast page. There you will find also the show notes for each episode, links to the makers and featured guests and mentions made in each chat.

Mentions in this Chat

• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

• CiderCon 2023 - February 1-3, 2023
  • sign up now for the January 30th Chicago Cider Tours
• Subscribe to eCiderNews

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When fruit explorer and horticultural historian Eliza Greenman received a call from owners of an overgrown orchard asking if she was related to the Greenman's who planted said orchard, it took her as she says, "down the rabbit hole". Greenman found that she was indeed distantly related to the orchard planters and took the job offer to restore the orchard. But that was only the beginning of the story that is still in process.

In this episode you will hear the Eliza Greenman's keynote address from the Maine Apple Camp which took place in August of 2022 which was titled Orchard Restoration and Pear Breeding.

Eliza Greenman's Keynote at Maine Apple Camp 2022

Pyrus calleryana, a.k.a. Bradford Pear or Callery Pears, is a type of ornamental pear tree that are commonly found in the United States. While they are often praised for their attractive white flowers and glossy green leaves, they have also gained a reputation as an invasive species.

Despite this negative reputation, Bradford Pears can actually be beneficial for cidermakers. Greenman explains that Bradford Pears make excellent root stock for top working pear varieties. Their hardy root systems can help to improve the overall health and vigor of the pear trees, which can be especially useful for cidermakers who rely on a consistent and high-quality harvest. In other words, while Bradford Pears may not be ideal for natural environments, they can be a valuable asset for those looking to cultivate pear trees for cider production.

• Dispelling the myth about "Pears for Heirs"
• The benefits of Bradford Pear

"Bradford or Callery Pear is great for root stock. Don't cut it all the way down."

~Eliza Greenman

Contact for Eliza Greenman

• Website: https://elizapples.com/

Mentions in this Chat

• Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association - Mofga.org
• CiderCon 2023 - February 1-3, 2023
  • sign up now for the January 30th Chicago Cider Tours
• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

• CiderCon 2023 - February 1-3, 2023
  • sign up now for the January 30th Chicago Cider Tours
• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

• Subscribe to eCiderNews

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Pauline and Bill Storum settled in Julian California after Pauline retired from the US Navy in 2013. Planting an orchard and vineyard on the outskirts of this apple town was rooted in their desire to get their son Kyle, who is autistic, and has a love of round objects engaged. Plus, Bill has wonderful memories of learning about orchard care when he was in high school. Kyle may prefer to stay indoors, but Bill is loving what he call his babies - the apple trees in the orchard.

In 2019, the county finally approved their plans and construction on their 81' x 36" steel building began that is both their production area and Tasting Room. Just as they were getting ready to open their tasting room in 2021, the Covid-19 pandemic hit, allowing them to focus on perfecting their business and building.

Today you can visit the Tasting Room which is air conditioned ( a nice treat when the high desert heat kicks in) or step outside on the patio and enjoy a glass.

All ciders are fermented to dry and are made primarily with the wild ambient yeast at the cidery.

They have both single varietal ciders and blends like Harrison and Campfield. The have set up tastings so that customers can compare the same blends from previous years and educate their palates.

• Wines
• Basalmic vinegar
• Olive oil
• Try a delicious non-alcoholic with the shrubs they make at the cidery drink.
• Cider Swag - hats and t-shirts

Grab a sandwich and snacks in Julian to bring out for a day hike after visiting the cidery.

• Santa Ysabel is a 5 minute drive from the cidery. Find shade, picnic tables, porta potties by the parking lot at the trail head. A great place to have a snack, drink cider and go for a hike.
• Volcan Mountain is a one hour hike and only a 2 minute drive from Storum. Bring layers! At the on road parking area it may be hot but at the view it can get down right chilly.

• Website: https://storumranch.com/

Mentions in this Chat

• CiderCon 2023 - February 1-3, 2023
  • sign up now for the January 30th Chicago Cider Tours
• New York International Cider Competition February 19, 2023- use promo code: Chat23 for $10 off your entry submission.

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