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Attorney Marc Sorini is a Partner at McDermott Will & Emery LLP based in Washington. DC.

• Marc is considered the go-to attorney on the alcohol beverage industry.
• He works with the United States Association of Cider Makers and presented this Historical Overview at the CiderCon luncheon on February 7, 2019 in Chicago.

Beside the History of Alcohol, Marc speaks at Trade Conferences on

• The Intersection of Spirits and Marijuana
• The Ban on Consignment Sales
• and an ongoing speakers schedule on topics relatable to the wine, beer, spirits and cider industry.

Marc Sorini is on the list of:

• The Best Lawyers in America, 2011 to 2019
• "Lawyer of the Year" for Food and Beverage Law in Washington DC in 2015 and 2018

In this presentation Marc Sorini discussed the historic development of the current legal structure regulating alcohol beverage businesses.

• The origins of "tied house" laws and the evolution of the three-tier system
• The "often-confusing" status of cider under federal law
• Cider's treatment under alcohol excise tax laws

Contact Attorney Marc Sorini

Law Firm website: McDermott Will & Emery LLP

Address: The McDermott Building

500 North Capitol Street, NW,

Washington, DC 20001-1531

Telephone: +1 202 756 8284

email: [email protected]

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• Cider Judges needed March 30th | Massachusetts - judging first round for the National Homebrew Competition
  • If you don't have entries in this year's NHC please sign up here :https://brewingcompetition.com/index.php?section=register&go=judge and select "Yes" for Boston Sessions under "Judging Teams Location Availability"

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Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider based in Prince Edward County, Ontario Canada presented an extended seminar on Oak Barrels at CiderCon 2019 in Chicago.

[caption id="attachment_4008" align="aligncenter" width="225"] Ryan Monkman - FieldBird Cider in cellar[/caption]

The workshop description:

It's like a Choose-Your-Own Adventure book...but with booze. A dozen mini-talks on oak. The crowd decides what to cover and what to scrap. We'll open with an introduction on barrels then throw it to the horde. A vote at the end of each mini-talk will determine what we explore next. We'll finish when the clock stops - leaving time for Q&A.

During the presentation Ryan had 4 ciders to taste that he with different degrees of oak applied ~ Some in barrels, some with oak chips with different levels of toasting.

• Barrels and Bâtonnage
• A Cider Barrels with a Cooper, A Maker and Thierry Lemaire

Topics Covered:

• Do you lose the oak overtures in carbonated cider?
• How is the barrel made and why it matters?
• And how does the barrel's design and wood used affect the cider
• Topping up your barrel with lees and cider
• What to do with the lees.
• Ryan keeps the yeast lees around.
  • He uses less as part of the top up of the barrel
  • You can also top it off with gas.

"Stirring is my favorite part"

• Use whatever you can to keep the lees back into suspension
• To stir or not to stir?
  • Not everyone does stir.
  • Lees are reductive and can reduce fruit aroma in a cider
• Does Ryan exclusively use French oak barrels. - No
  • He has one American Barrel (named "Ria" and filled with Perry!! and plans on getting more American barrels and also a Canadian barrels too.
• How often to stir barrels
  • Ryan stirs 2x/day during initial fermentation
  • Then twice a week
  • Long term twice a month or every two weeks to top off the barrel
• Ryan leaves the cider on lees until it is ready to bottle
• The toasting of a barrel impacts the toasting of the barrel.
  • The lighter it is toasted the lighter the oak overtures.
  • more toasted more flavor

"With oak you can build complexity!"

[caption id="attachment_4007" align="aligncenter" width="225"] FieldBird Cider "Buzzing Chatter" 2017[/caption]

• Using oak chips
  • Question is - when do I want to use them?
• Which oak to use - not all oak is alike.
• What % of a French oak tree can be used to make barrels? 20%
  • The remaining 80% of the tree is used to make railroad ties in France
  • The oak planks are dried outside for 2-4 years
• Coopers can use a reed between pieces of wooden staves
  • They use to use wheat flour - but no one use wheat flour anymore
  • Because only 20% of the tree can be used is one of the reasons why French oak barrels are so expensive.
• Reconditioned barrels? Worth it?
• Different oak barrels
  • Whiskey barrels are more loose grained
  • Chardonnay barrels in CA are tighter

The main wood of choice is white oak

Main variety of French oak used is "Quercus robur" (Limousin oak) which has a high levels of tannin and low levels of flavor

• What do you want to say with your cider

What to do? Do a whole bunch of different things.

• Any barrel is better than no barrel

Bourbon barrels - coarse grain - heavy grain into the fire zone - aromatic but not a the structure side - to get vanillin note it requires time.

Wine barrel - tight grain - light to medium toast - french or European oak

Contact for FieldBird Cider

Website: https://fieldbirdcider.com/

Buy FieldBird Cider

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fieldbird.cider/

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• @fieldbird.cider
• @ryanmonkman

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167: Cider Vortex Tales | Chicago2019

This episodes highlights recordings made during Chicago Cider Week February 1-9, 2019.

CiderCon, the annual Trade Conference for members of the United States Association of Cider Makers, took place on February 4-8.

On Saturday the 10th Chicago Cider Summit capped off this cider soaked week, with two cider sessions at the Navy Pier. This event had record attendance topping off at 3500 people.

Featured in this episode 167 we begin at the Cider Share held on Wednesday the 7th and meet Meredith and Peter of Century Cider in Memphis Tennessee.

Then we get a dose of cider geeking with Charles McGonegal as chat Tetrahydropyridine (THP) and mousey overtures in cider. Go to episode 83 and 84.

Then it is off to mini chats with cider drinkers attending Cider Summit.

In order of guest recordings:

• Andrew
• Lindsey
• Michelle
• Clorissa
• Jill & Jordy
• Kelly Whitney
• Kate & Franny
• Jill
• Malinka
• Daryl
• William (@CiderGeek), Erica, and Globe Trotting Gluten Free with Erin Smith.
• Following up on tips given to Eric during the Cider Summit

Totally Cider Tours to sign up for now.

• April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay, California - Reservations and info
• September 22-28, 2019 - Normandy, France - Reservations
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166 Cider Chat Live | Life off CiderCon2019

I was able to squeak in a mini episode before setting off to Chicago for the annual cider trade conference "CiderCon" hosted by the United States Association of Cider Makers.

I've been talking a lot about CiderCon leading up to this week of February 4-9, 2019. With 1000 people attending from all parts of the world, it is the Talk of the Town - for those of us who are hooked on all things cider.

Below is my schedule of recordings - I have a pretty simple set up to track who I will be speaking to and when. I am stoked that I will have more time at workshops recording, versus hidden away in a back room doing interviews. It's not that I don't like interviews, but when I heard last year that no one saw me for most of CiderCon in Baltimore - I realized that just ain't right. So this CiderCon - I have set up an number on seminar and panel recordings.

Even as I am flying to Chicago right now - I am getting direct messages in Twitter from makers who are going to CiderCon and looking to chat. Luckily I have also learned to leave a few open slots for just these kind of meet ups.

Here is the recording schedule thus far -

Feb 5th Tuesday Arrive…get landed find half and half for morning coffee that me and my hotel mate Erica can use for the bad ass French press she is bringing (dang sure glad I agreed to room with Erica who also is one of the biggest, joyful cider enthusiasts around …my kind of cider person!)

Lee Reeve - InCider Japan 6-7pm

- note to self, bring the bottle of Calvados - must do a swig with Lee, whom I am stoked to meet.

Little Pomona - 7pm - I must catch up with Susanna and James Forbes - Already have my copy of The Cider Insider, that Susanna just wrote - and would love to talk to her about this awesome book! A must have - links to buy on the Cider Chat resource page

The Northman Cider Bar tonight…maybe or lay low and pace myself…we will see

Feb 6th amWednesday

9-10 Simon Day - Once Upon a Tree | UK - I am so excited to meet Simon and hear his tales and drink his cider!!!

1-3pm Pomme Boots Meeting - Krista Scruggs of ZAFA wines is speaking!!!

3-4pm Media - I think as media I get to go to the Cider Share early - weeeeeee

4-6:30pm Cider Share - Heaven on earth - walking about a room full of cider and the makers

7pm - James Creek Ciderhouse, North Carolina - a cider dinner and recording with Ann Marie and David Thornton???? "Yes - please"

Feb 7th Thursday

10:15am - Beginning Cidermaker panel - continental A - I get to moderate and introduce this powerhouse panel.

10:15am Dryness - Williford C - I will be recording this key presentation with folks from the New York Cider Association - Jen Smith is the Ex Director and I Heart Jen!

12 - 1pm Attorney Marc Sorini is speaking during lunch on the History of Alcohol! I had to coax Marc to allow me to record! Can't wait to hear this presentation!!!

3-4:30pm oak - Ryan Monkman - Wiliford A-B - Ryan of Ontario - …based on Prince Edward County and maker of Field Bird Cider - If you haven't listen to Barrels and Bàtonnage with Ryan - DO - he is amazing. and I adore him,

Feb 7th Thursday evening open - who knows where I will be once the sun goes down. One thing for sure, I will have a glass of cider in my hand.

Feb 8th Friday

10:15am Embracing & Encouraging Diversity - Continental C - yowza - this is a powerhouse panel

12:30am Michelle McGrath - lunch speaker - I want to record Michelle - she is the perfect fit for the USACM and the fact that she is doing all that she does and is pregnant to boot! Super Star!!!

Leaving Open - 1:30 - 4:30

Friday evening - Erica scored a ticket to the SpeakEasy Cider meet up - YeeHaw!

Feb 9th Saturday -

A full day at Chicago Cider Summit

Feb 10th Sunday

Fly home - Ya!

Must be 21 years or older to attend.

Tour Begins: 1pm Friday | April 12, 2019 in Capitola, California

Meet the makers and orchardists of Monterey Bay:

Santa Cruz Cider Company 2019 Good Food Awards finalist for cider

• Two sisters, Nicole and Natalie founded this company back in 2013. Nicole's husband Felix creates the amazing ink labels that adorn this enterprising cidery's labels. Listen to Nicole's Cider Chat episode 60 and a recent conversation with Natalie and Nicole on a walkabout the orchard on episode 159.

Soquel Cider - 2019 Good Food Awards winner for cider

• Laura Everett is making cider at the orchard based organic farm, but I have a feeling that her husband Rich who tends the Honey Crisp orchard while Laura is nuturing the heirloom orchard is always at the ready with a smile and helping hand. Listen to episode 164: Soquel Cider's Organic Orchards | California with Laura.

[caption id="attachment_3933" align="aligncenter" width="200"] Laura Everett - Soquel Cider[/caption]

Rider Ranch Ciderworks

• Eric Rider is a self describe cider geek. He can't wait to talk to anyone interested in the subtle nuances of cidermaking. On the tour Eric will lead us through both a vertical and horizontal tasting of Newtown Pippins. Listen to the Riders Cider Chat on episode 110

[caption id="attachment_2731" align="aligncenter" width="225"] Katie & Eric[/caption]

Tanuki Cider Company

• Robby Honda is the maker/owner of Tanuki. Listen to Robby on Cider Chat episode 103

• [caption id="attachment_2575" align="aligncenter" width="225"] Robby Honda of Tanuki Cider[/caption]

Serventi Ranch Cider

• Peter and Erin Serventi have an orchard based cidery outside of Watsonville. We will be having our lunch in their orchard and take part in a tour and tasting.

[caption id="attachment_3947" align="aligncenter" width="300"] Peter and Erin of Serventi Ranch Cider[/caption]

• Jake Mann of Five Mile Orchard
  • Jake part of a multi generational orcharding family and he also like to make cider for his own enjoyment. Listen to Jake's Cider Chat episode 113

• And the oldest maker in the USA - S. Martinelli & Company founded in 1868
  • John Martinelli will lead the tour at the company's main juice plant. Listen to John's Cider Chat episode 162

[caption id="attachment_3821" align="aligncenter" width="225"] John Martinelli and Ria recording episode 162[/caption]

Costs of Tour:

• $385/person - February 12, 2019
• $400/person - February 13th - March 12th, 2019
• $420/person - March 12th - April 12th, 2019

• Cider Tours and Orchard Tastings
• Lunch on Saturday
• Cider Dinner Saturday Night at Soquel Cider
• Transportation to the tours, and cider dinner: Meet up and drop off location in Capitola

What is not included?

• Flights or other transportation to and from Capitola, California
• Airport transfers
• Lodging
• Travel Insurance (optional)
• Dinner Friday night on own
• Food and drinks outside of this cider tour offering
• Cider bought from makers
• Personal expenses

Please note that itineraries are subject to change.

Need Lodging: If you are coming from out of town - I have secured rooms at the Best Western Plus Capitola By-the-Sea Inn & Suites in Capitola at a reduced rate of 169.99 + Tax. This is a brand new hotel with gluten free options for breakfast, a heated pool, workout room and located a short walk to the Capitola Wharf. The BW room coupon code will be sent once your reservation is confirmed.

Locals lodging rates during this time of year in the area really swell up - like an apple filled with water - This is a very good rate - so lets fill up BW with cider fans!

Soquel Cider is located at the Everett Family Farm in Soquel, California. Laura and Rich Everett were looking for away to get back to the land and enjoying a bit of farming, when they bought the farm in 2000. There is a Farm Stand with vegetables and fresh pressed apple juice, that is open to the public - the cidery is not.

In this chat, Laura and I walkabout the orchards and explore the diversity of fruit trees that makes this place so special. We see the beautiful Comice Pear Orchard. These trees are unique as the trunk is so short, about 24 inches tall before the limbs start spreading out.

We roundabout the Pear Trees and take a look at Laura's Orchard which was planted in 2007m when she set the root for a bunch of cider apples. Every two rows is a different apple of

• Fox Whelp
• Dabinet
• Porters Perfection
• Yarlington Mill
• Roxbury Russett
• Staymen
• Belle de Boskoop

Other Fruit Trees:

• Comice Pear
• Persimmons - Hychiya & Fuyu
• Santa Rosa Plums
• Apricot Trees

Soquel Ciders

• Laura's Orchard - winner of the Good Food Award 2019
• Soquel Cider - is a Good Food Award Finalist 2019
• Apple Persimmon (8.7%) cider with Hachiya Persimmons - Fall release
• Barrel Aged Cider - aged in a rye whiskey barrel
• Santa Rosa Plum Cider

Contact Soquel Cider

• Website Soquel Cider
• eMail [email protected]
• Telephone: 831-566-0472
• Visit the farm stand: 2111 Old San Jose Road, Soquel, CA 95073

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• April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations and info
• September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in late January
• Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours.

February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today.

• Canadian Makers attending CiderCon2019
  • Kristen Needham - Sea Cider - British Columbia - Natural Cider Workshop Feb 7th
  • Ryan Monkman - FieldBird Cider - Ontario - Using Oak- What do you want to know? Feb 7th
  • Michel Jodoin - Cidrerie Michel Jodoin - Quebec: Ice Cider Feb 8th
  • Alan Demoy - Cidrerie du Minot - Quebec: Ice Cider Feb 8th

February 10th - New York International Cider Competition

• Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com
• Here below are the links for more info
• https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/
• https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/

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Ambrosia Borowski is the General Manager of The Northman a cider bar in Chicago. She also spearheaded Chicago Cider Week.

In this chat, Ambrosia chats:

• Tips for making a Calvados Cocktail
• Tips on getting around Chicago -Take the L, which is part of the CTA public transportation system
• Chicago Cider Week kicks off on February 1st at The Northman, where you will be able to find the official event guide. Note that The Northman has two locations, but only one is open during CiderCon - so go to 4337 N Lincoln Ave, Chicago, IL 60618
• Chicago Cider Summit is held on February 9, 2019 at the Navy Pier in Chicago. Expect two cider tasting session, each being a ticketed event

At CiderCon Ambrosia will be teaching the Elements of Cider with Charles McGonegal at CiderCon of February 5, 2019. They will touch upon sweetness, tannin and acid in cider and the style guide.

Ambrosia is also on a Tasting Panel with Lauren Shepard of Shelton Brothers.

CiderCon attendees - make sure to download the Attendify App, which shows all the workshops sessions and will post the Chicago Cider Week events that are sponsored.

More Chicago info:

O'Hare Airport apple history

What does the airport code ORD stand for at this mighty Chicago hub?

Answer: Orchard Field

Transportation around Chicago?

Taking the L train from downtown to The Northman will take you 30 minutes

Via Lyft: Use Promo Code: LYFTCIDERCHAT get a ride credit for new users of this ride share program.

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Totally Cider Tours

• April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations are no online and open
• September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in February.
• Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours.

February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago.

February 10th - New York International Cider Competition

• The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price
• This competition uses the USACM categories
• Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com
• Here below are the links for more info
• https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/
• https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/

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• Instagram: @ciderchatciderville
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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
3. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
4. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California
5. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
6. inCider Japan Japan's only bilingual magazine for all things cider
7. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
8. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
9. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
10. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
11. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
12. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
13. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
14. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103

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The company is located, as it has always been, for the last 150 years in Watsonville, California.

The first cider made by Stephen was a 7.5% alcohol by volume sparkling cider.

This chat is with Stephen John Martinelli, the great grandson of the Founder and the current CEO and General Manager of this family owned business.

John's first job as a teen was to clean the 125 gallon redwood fermenting tanks that were used at Martinelli's to ferment apples juice to cider. You can still see the slats from the old tank today at the Company Store, where they flank the tasting bar.

In this chat, we discuss Martinelli's new product "1868" which came out in August of 2018 to commemorate the 150th year. 1868 is a 5.7% cider that Martinelli is currently contracting with the Gordon Biersch brewing company to ferment.

• The bulk of the apples are sourced from the Pacific Northwest.
• 1868 has the signature Martinelli juice profile, with a Newtown Pippin apple presence.
• It is sold in 12 ounce bottles in 12-packs.

Costcos in California and the two Safeway stores in Santa Cruz are the only location currently selling this product. The 1868 is selling fast, as Martinelli loyalist buy sometimes up to 2-4 12-packs at a time.

Listen to and see the wordplayed by Hip Hop Artist Andy Mineo called: Martinelli's

Contact info for S. Martinelli & Company

Website: https://www.martinellis.com

Tours? Martinelli's does not provide public tours.

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• Totally Cider Tours
  • April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California
    • Reservations open January 11, 2019
  • September 22-28, 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in late January
  • Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours.

• February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today. Volunteer for CiderCon and have your registration fee waivered! Contact : Woodley email - [email protected]
• February 10th - New York International Cider Competition
  • The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price
  • This competition uses the USACM categories
  • Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com

• Here below are the links for more info
  • https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/
  • https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/
• Listen to 108: The Alcohol Professor chats Cider Competitions and Judging

• Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

• Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts.
• Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast
• Twitter @ciderchat
• Instagram: @ciderchatciderville
• Cider Chat FaceBook Page
• Cider Chat YouTube

Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Franklin County CiderDays takes place on the first weekend of November in "Franklin County" Massachusetts. This year 2019 will be the 25th annual CiderDays. Events take place on both sides of the Connecticut River and many are free to attend. Go to https://ciderdays.org/ and start planning to attend the 25th Annual. And make sure you take enough time off before the events begin on Friday, as I ,Ria, will be leading another Totally Cider Tour : New England the day before.

For the past six years the CiderDays Amateur Cider Competition solicts entries during CiderDays and at locations through out New England. The actual judging takes place one month after CiderDays. Thus the 2018 judging took place on December 1st, 2018 at the White Church in Deerfield Massachusetts.

Many of the judges have been involved with CiderDays since if first started back in 1993. Judges can also be commercial makers, cider writers and fermenters from as far as Virginia and Pennsylvania.

This episode records the Best of Show judging of the final 11 ciders that all placed first in their category.

Scroll to minute 13:48 to listen straight away to the Best of Show Recording. Otherwise enjoy the news beforehand and after from out and about Ciderville.

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Cousin Jay brings us into this week's chat

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February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today. Volunteer for CiderCon and have your registration fee waivered! Contact : Woodley email - [email protected]

February 10th - New York International Cider Competition

• The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price
• This competition uses the USACM categories
• Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com
• Here below are the links for more info
• https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/
• https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/

Totally Cider Tours

• April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations can be made in January
• September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in January
• Interested in these tours? Sign up for the eCiderNews and receive updates on tours.

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

• Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts.
• Follow on Cider Chat's blog, social media and podcast
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1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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• How do you pronounce Amateur?
• Did you know there is more than one way to approach this word?
• Do you use "amateur" as a compliment or an insult?

If you are swinging back and forth on your answers to these questions, you are not alone.

In this episode we explore the use of the word "amateur"...and I share my two cents on the matter.

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February 4th-8th, 2019 CiderCon The United States Association of Cider Makers annual Trade Conference will be held in Chicago. Find out more and reserve today.

February 10th - New York International Cider Competition

• The NYCC has a different philosophy from other competitions in that all of judges are trade buyers judging by category and price
• This competition uses the USACM categories
• Submit your cider to the New Jersey and Canadian locations and NYCC will ship your additional entries for free to the www.berlininternationalbeercompetition.com
• Here below are the links for more info
• https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-canada-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/
• https://berlininternationalbeercompetition.com/announcing-free-shipping-from-the-usa-to-the-2019-berlin-international-beer-competition/

Totally Cider Tours

• April 12th & 13th 2018 Monterey Bay California - Reservations can be made in January
• September 2019 - Normandy France - Reservation will begin in January
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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!