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Sign up for the New England Cider Tour November 1st!

The first Franklin County CiderDays began as a one day event on the first Saturday of November. The year was 1994. It has been held on the first weekend of November every year since for the past 24 years. Much has remained the same, except that the event itself has evolved into a 3-day program.

Listen to episode 046: Going to CiderDays to get even more tips not mentioned in this episode.

This episodes provides you with key tips to consider when attending CiderDays:

Do you need Transportation?

Yes! You definitely need a car to attend CiderDays.

Franklin County is located in Western Ma - which is 75 miles to the west of Boston.

Folks can fly into Logan airport, Manchester Airport in New Hampshire, the Providence Rhode Island airport and Bradley Field Airport in Ct. Any of these airports will drop you into a region where you can plot your own map to CiderDays. Want low stress? Fly into Bradley Field (BDL).

I recommend flying into Bradley Field in Connecticut (BDL) , because it is the close by and provides an easy drive up to Franklin County. Why waste time when there is a glass of cider waiting for you? It's an easy one hour drive up interstate 91 to Franklin county.

Lodging

Lodging in Franklin County (FC)

I recommend that you take a good look at a map and decide which side of the Connecticut River you would like to end up on and then google motels, B&B and check out airbnb.

There are plenty options available, but don't delay as CiderDays can bring in over +3000 people over the course of one day. Below are some off the beaten trails and yet good picks.

The Inn at Crumpin Fox - Bernardston. MA (FC)

Stump Sprouts Guest Lodge and Cross Country Ski Center -Buckland, MA (FC)

Centennial House B&B, Northfield MA (FC)

French King Restaurant and Motel Erving, MA (FC)

Northampton is located in Hampshire County as is Amherst. Both are big college town and are pretty fun little eclectic cities with excellent coffee shops, beer bars. In Northampton find the Dirty Truth which is holding a cider event on Friday night (November 2) and Sierra Grille. The Sierra Grille has two dedicated cider taps.

Food options

Breakfast - Denny's 469 Bernardston Rd, Greenfield, MA 01301 - This is not the chain restaurant also by the same name.

Greenfield Market and COOP : 144 Main St, Greenfield, MA 01301-3210

West End Pub - Shelburne Falls

Blue Rock - Shelburne Falls

Black Cow - Turners Falls - 127 Avenue A, Turners Falls, MA 01376

Hager's Farm Market - Shelburne Falls - an easy stop as you are driving up from Greenfield to Shelburne Falls Community Center

Shelburne Falls Coffee Roasters

Apex Orchard - newly built apple store and picnic area with a spectacular view east to Mount Monadnock in New Hampshire.

Hawks and Reed Performing Arts Center - situated in the center of Greenfield. Prime location for Friday night events. Stop by for the cider schmooze. Cider will be sold by the glass.

Have treat at Mo's Fudge Factory - Shelburne Falls

Making Cider and Finding Cider

Making:

From Boston heading west on Route 2 (recommended)… pick up cidermaking supplies at NFG Home Brew Supply Shop. They are open Thursday 3-8, Friday 9-2 and Saturday from 10 - 3.

NFG Home-brew Supplies is a family run home-brew shop in Johnny Appleseeds birth place - Leominster, MA. They have an online catalog and very competitive prices.

From New York City and Connecticut's Bradley Field Airport

Beerology , Northampton, MA

Drinking

West County Cider new Tasting Room is located right across the street from Apex Orchards. There are two taps of West County Cider in the Tasting Room. Imagine that!

Want to find a local cidery in this spot of Ciderville? Check out Cydermarket LLC

Local Package Stores that sell cider

Stan's Liquor Mart - Athol MA is a bit far out from Greenfield, but is an easy stop if you are traveling from Boston to Greenfield. Stan's has one of the largest selections of ciders and ice ciders in the area.

Ryan & Casey's Liquor Store - Greenfield, MA will have Cider and Calvados tasting on Saturday 12-3pm. Look to the schedule for more info.

Overview of Pro Tips and Business Mentions

Recommended hike in Shelburne area: High Ledges (approximately 1 hour back and forth)

Coming up from Northampton or Pittsfield, Ashfield's Elmer Store serves food and has wifi.

Cider Competition

Bring your homemade cider and enter the CiderDays Amateur Cider Competition.

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Kees Morsink and Margaret Van Helvoort have traveled the world as United Nations aid workers in Africa where they were fermenting everything from yogurt to mango and even doing some distilling. Cider isn't new to these two enterprising Canadians. Kees had his first spontaneous ferment forty years ago when he put a gallon of cider in his school locker and the cider began to ferment.

Now-a-days they split their time traveling to India, Nepal, and Thailand making jewelry. This lifestlye provides them the ability to manage their own time which really helps with the seasonal demands of cider making.

Four years ago they began the process of starting up a commercial cider making operation at their home. The Tasting Room open in May 2018.

I visited with my Canadian host Ryan Monkman of Fieldbird Cider in June of 2018. We sat down in the Kees and Margarets living room and then moved to the Tasting Room next door.

From May 31st to December 31st you can visit the Tasting Room on Saturday and Sundays from 11-6pm. There is a window that allows viewing into the cidery.

We tasted the full compliment of Kings Mill Ciders, which are all available via their online store. All the ciders made are 9% alcohol by volume (ABV), unless listed below

• Premium
• Premium Dry
• Hopped Ginger
• Hopped
• Ginger
• Russet Heritage - 9.8%
• Scrumpy - 8.2%
• Arrested Development -10%
• Ice Cider - 8.5%
• MFL Sctumpy - 8.1%

Contact Info for Kings Mill Cider Inc.

Website: http://kingsmillcider.ca/home

eMail: [email protected]

Address:

• 596 Kings Mill Road
• Stirling, Ontario KOK 3EO Canada

Telephone: 613-395-4079

Tasting Room

• Saturday & Sunday 11am - 6pm

Online Cider Store

http://kingsmillcider.ca/store

Mentions in this Chat

• New England Cider Tour November 1st
• Elegast Cidery & Distillery - Netherlands cidery and distillery

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

River Tour by Eiffel Tower

This episode is a Cider Chat Live recording -

I had limited time, so this one day excursion what the perfect fit.

I began the day by visiting Montmartre.

It is located within walking distance from my hotel.

Montmarte overlooks Paris and is one of the highest points in the city - in the Dome, which I climbed …all 300 steps up and down, you are higher than the Effiel Tower.

The fee to climb the Dome is 6 euros. If you have difficulty with stairs this is not a good choice.

There is a courtyard nearby filled with artist and the Salvador Dali Museum is nearby. The fee is 14 euros and the audio assist is an additional 3 euros.

An early evening walk along the Champs-Élysées and a cruise through the courtyard of the Louvre, and then onto Pont Neuf to catch a river boat tour along the River Seine.

The Vedettes du Pont Neuf boat tour is an hour long and cost approximately 14 euros.Make reservations online and get the same tour for 10 euros. I highly recommend this tour, as it is not a crowded boat and takes you along many of the major attractions. Go on the evening tour and see the Eiffel Tower sparkle on the hour every hour until 1 am.

If you would like to find out more about Totally Cider Tours - go to the Totally Cider page at ciderchat.com

• Mini clips of travels and tips while in Amsterdam in September.
• Anne Frank's house

• A visit to Apples en Peren in Amsterdam
• Then on to the Vondelpark to visit the Medlar tree
• Medlars have crowns

• Bicycling around Amsterdam

I like renting from Star Bikes, located by Amsterdam Centraal. Nice location and best of all they allow you the ability to drop you bike off after hours. They might size you up and decide if you are the right fit to trust with the bike so act smart. Other rentals require a drop off time of 7pm.

A recording from the Ferry boat behind Amsterdam Centraal - free both ways. The Ferry leaves every six minutes. Every 12 minutes after midnight. Take it for a ride just for the fun of it.

New Fictional Cider book:

Hard Cider by Barbara Stark-Nemon 2018 release date of October

Published by She Writes Press.

Story of Abbie Rose Stone, a fictional character who lives in Michigan. Abbie is delving into cidermaking and while navigating family life. Stark-Nemon's style is descriptive and witty, blending real life characters into the story, yet using pseudonyms that kept this reader engaged trying to figure out just who she was writing about.

Give to your favorite cidermaker and by a copy for yourself!

Cider Chat Live is a mini version of Cider Chat and is posted in almost real time.

Andy Sietsema comes from a long line of apple growers in the Grand Rapids area of Michigan. He is a fourth generation farmer and now a professional cidermaker at Sietsema Cider. Since launching the cidermaking operation in 2013, the family's cider mill and orchard runed by Andy's parents in the town of Ada has closed operations as of 2018. When news broke on the closing it swept out into the newsphere quickly, but anyone who was really listening, would not have been surprised.

Farming is hard work and being an orchard based cidery can be a tough way to make a living, while cider is still trying to get a leg hold in the drink market. Way before the orchard closed Andy was already working on a Tap Room at a new location in the town of Cedar Springs just north of Grand Rapids. The night before this episode was to go live, Andy wrote that the landlord pulled the plug on the Cedar Springs location. I replied, that even so I still suspected he was going to raise a glass of Maggie's Reserve on September 21st. I wanted to run with this episode, because I like the story.

A Big Part of Sietsema's Story

Andy makes cider made with Michigan apples. He is proud of that and should be considering his lineage in the apple scene in Michigan. He has culinary varieties primarily for his base cider. For his heritage cider conditioned in wooden beer barrels it is a blend of 20 different cider varieties. That cider is aged for a year and is named for his daughter - it is called Maggie's Reserve.

Maggie's Reserve is a fully bodied cider that stopped me in my tracks at first sip. Frankly, I was pleasantly surprised to finally taste a cider that had character and depth, having had one too many modern ciders that week in Grand Rapids while attending the Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition (GLINTCAP). At 10.5% it also kicked my ass. I don't know if it was the fact that I was drinking it on tap or that I got to enjoy it with Andy while enjoying small plates at Grand Rapids farm to table restaurant Soverngard.

I drank a lot of ciders while in Grand Rapids, but Maggie's Reserve is the most memorable. Listen to the podcast to hear a part of Maggie's story.

Ciders by Sietsema Orchards,

• In can's
  • Traditional Dry (6.9%)
  • Slightly Sweet (6.9%)
  • Hopped (6.9%)
  • Lemongrass (6.9%)
• Released yearly on September 21st in Tribute to Maggie Sietsema
  • Maggie's Reserve (10.5%) barrel aged for one year

Contact Sietsema Orchards

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sietsemacider/

Mentions in this Chat

Susanna Forbes new book Cider Insider

New England is comprised of 6 states, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut and is home to some of the United States' oldest commercial cideries. In what is known as western Massachusetts, the annual cider fest known as Franklin County CiderDays, takes place on the first weekend of November each year. This year is the 24th annual and takes place on November 2-4, 2018.

Cider Barrels outside at Farnum Hill, New Hampshire[/caption]

To kick off CiderDays and welcome so many travelers from around the globe, I am offering a cider tour to New Hampshire and Vermont on November 1st. Cuz - why not share my passion of all the amazing cider options in this region.

This episode details the tour with stops at:

• Farnum Hill
• Eden Specialty Cider
• Stowe Cider
• Fable Farm Fermentory will offer a tour of their cider cave and host a Cider Dinner with Teddy Weber of Tin Hat Cider.

Sign up for the New England Cider Tour and Cider Dinner

Contact [email protected] for more info.

Go to New England Cider Tour for even more info of the cidermakers we will be visiting.

Mentions in this Chat

• E.J Scott Orchard has apples for sale macs, cortlands, macoun, spencers, red and golden del, galas, honey crisps, jonagolds, fujis, empires, spys, mutsus, cameos, and greenings. Contact Colin Scott about the apples and for anyone interested in cold storage or just space. He has 19000 square ft in one room and 9000 square ft in the other that he will rent to one business not multiple.
  • Colin will be teaching grafting at CiderDays on Sunday November 4th.
• Listen to Cat Fleming episode 142 SoCal Irreverence at Ironbark | California

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

There is Perry being made in Georgian Bay, Ontario! Windswept Orchard Cider is 2 years old (founded in 2016) and is the creation of Mark Skinner, wife Courtney and their two kids. This couples background is culinary cooking which is part of the inspiration for the cidermaking and their ability to tend to orchards. The 100 acre farm is located in the souther region of Georgian Bay.

They planted over a 1000 apples varieties of the cider making kind. While those dwarf apple trees are growing: read not yet producing as it takes around 3-5 years to really start getting apples. This enterprising couple is scrumping apples, and discovering "Lost Orchards" in their surrounding area.

From what Mark tells us this area of Canada has a lot of heritage apples trees. Mark works up a yearly rental agreement with landowners to pick the apples. And there are also lots of pear trees and they are tannic enough to make some mighty fine Perry.

Mark works full time at a vineyard and part time on Windswept.

All the cider are bottle conditions "Partly because we love the bubbles and because we don't have the equipment to do otherwise."

Find Windswept Orchard Ciders

• Visit their online store -link is below
• local farmer's markets
• -in Toronto at Wynchwood Barn

Contact for Windswept Orchard Cider

• Website: https://windsweptcider.com/
• Online Store: https://windsweptcider.com/collections/all-products
• Address: Meaford, Ontario

Mentions in this chat

• 098 Jérôme Dupont (1970-2018) | Domain Dupont, FR
• 141 Cider Lunch at Heartwood Farm & Cidery | Ontario
• Ryan Monkman - FieldBird Cider
• Totally Cider Tour: Normandy
• Ross Cider Festival August 31 - September 2, Ross on Wye, England.
• Eric Lewandowski - Designed Windswept Labels. Check out his website
• CiderDays November 2-4

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Ironbark Ciderworks in Claremont, California opened its Tasting Room doors to the public in November of 2017. The large inviting Tasting Room has conical stainless steel tanks to one side and room for musicians to another, in the back. The front room has tables and chairs and a hot pink bar.

There is also outside seating which offers a perfect place to sit and take in the dry, arid air of this southern California oasis. Find ample parking, a brewery across the parking area and a distillery.

This cidery has a definite feminine touch. The pink hues, pink chairs and as Cat says, "We like curves."

Cat considers Ironbark to be a safe space for women and everyone. On the Cider House Rules by the bar it states - No misogynist, homophobic or transphobic behavior is allowed. "We have to had to have people leave" says Cat.

This Australian born, statuesque woman makes me believe that asking someone who is mean spirited to leave would be no problem.

But dealing with unruly behavior is not why we are meeting - so in step with her inviting hospitality Cat offers up straight away giant flight of ciders

The first cider served was called Duchess-(7.5%) made with black tea "Twinning" that they import just for this tea. They have a base cider, filter and then steep the tea.

A Specially Poured Flight for this chat

• The Duchess - (7.2%) - made with Twinning Tea
• Passionista (8.4%) - light, straw, carbonated. Made with passion fruit
• Hoppelganger (7.5%) - An IPA "doopleganger"
• Sassy Simpson (8%) Black currant juice fermented with apple juice and once fermented steeped with Black Currant tea.
• Twilight (9%) - made with Blueberries
• Anais (7.2%)
• Volcano (7.5%)
• Jamaica (7.5%)
• Hoptropica (6.9%)

Zang- made with 200 pounds of fresh ginger was out while I was there, but Cat says, "It is everyone's favorite." I gravitated towards the Twilight.

How Cat got into Fermenting

• She is gluten intolerant
• allergic to yeast and sulfites
• And, does not like sugar in cider
• Ace Cider's "The Joker" is what got her into making cider.

Fermentation Practices at Ironbark Ciderworks

• 10 barrel Tanks
• No sulfites
• No sugar
• Ferment dry
• They use the same yeast for all the ciders
• The juice is from Washington State. They get a cider blend and granny smith to mix in an manage the acid level in Ironbark Cider.
• Once fermented they filter the cider to remove the yeast.

"Duchess [made with tea] is a good breakfast cider" says Cat

Contact for Ironbark Ciderworks

• 1420 N. Claremont Blvd.
• Suite 107B
• Claremont, CA 91711

Mentions in this Chat

Best Buy Brewing - Ironbark get their tanks from this resource

Totally Cider Tour: Normandy, France September 23-29, 2018

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Val Steinmann and Brent Klassen moved from the city to the 42 acre farm that is now called Heartwood Farm and Cidery in 2004. In the past 14 years, they created pasture and now have a herd of 20 cows each summer. They have planted an orchard and raised pigs, chickens and have two work horses.

Val inspired the family to worked towards a "regenerative farm" and in short order Brent got into orchard care with nut trees and maple trees and of course soon enough apples and cider making.

Kat Scott came on board in 2017 and is also on this chat.

This recording was made while I was touring Ontario cideries with Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider. We recorded this conversation during lunch at the farmhouse - and it is an absolute pleasure to share a piece of that day on the farm with you Ciderville.

Apples Trees at Heartwood's Orchard

• Bulmers Normand
• Kingston Black
• Michelin
• Dabinet
• Harry Masters Jersey
• Chisel Jersey

Heartwood Cider Production

• Currently producing 15,000 liters (3,963 gallons)

Cidery

• 600 Square feet
• There are 4 large tanks that are each 6000 liters (1585 gallons)

Tasting Room was built in the Summer of 2018. It is a well appointed room about 23' X 14' with custom wood tables and walls, and an outdoor sitting area.

Contact Heartwood Farm & Cidery

Website: http://heartwoodfarm.ca/

Telephone: +1 416 527 4352

Address:

• 5438 Second Line
• Acton, ON
• L7J 2L9, Canada

Mentions in this Chat

• Totally Cider Tour to Normandy France September 23-29
• Mid Atlantic Amateur Cider Championship
  • Listen to 124: No Input Apples at Big Fish Cider Co. | Virginia
  • Judges from Big Fish, Castle Hill & Albemarle Ciderworks
  • Listen to episode 11 Castle Hill Cider - on how they bury clay vessels called "Keveri" for making cider
  • Listen to episode 56 with Albemarle Ciderworks - maker Chuck Shelton.
• Ryan Monkman, FieldBird Cider Listen to his chat

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• Twitter @ciderchat
• Instagram: @ciderchatciderville
• Cider Chat FaceBook Page
• Cider Chat YouTube

Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Niagara College has two locations in Ontario, Canada. This chat features the Niagara-on-the-Lake campus which has a fully licensed winery on site (which is what is needed to make cider in Canada). It is here that past student and now the onsite winemaker, Gavin Robertson, works with students making cider to sell at the college's Tasting Room.

The course work is very experiential in that there is a small high density cider apple orchard on the campus, all the equipment needed to make cider and a program that teaches students the ins and outs of commercial cidermaking.

The annual cider yield is around 5000 cases of wine and now cider too!

In fact, per Dan who was serving that day while I was on site in the Tasting Room "Cider is what everyone is asking for when they visit [the Tasting Room].

The main brand at this campus is called: Cider 101.

Additional programs offered at Niagara College

culinary sciences at Niagara on the Lake College

• chef
• brewmaster program
• distillation program
• enology
• post grad program
• horticulture
• cannibus growing business - July 2018 Canada opened up recreational and medicinal marijuana.

Gavin also runs a virtual cidery and speaks about the set up of this business. He calls t Garage D'or Cider and has only draft accounts.

The following establishments are a good bet for finding Garage D'or ciders on tap.

• Merchant Ale House in Saint Catherines, Ontario
• Kully's , Saint Catherine

In Toronto Garage D'or occasionally pours at:

• Wvrst - toronto @wvrstbeerhall
• Birreria Volo - toronto

Contact Gavin Robertson

eMail: [email protected]

135 Taylor Road, S.S. #4

Niagara-on-the-Lake

Ontario, CA LOS IJO

Niagara College Teaching Winery

Follow Garage D'or Ciders on Facebook

Mentions in this chat

Totally Cider Tour: Normandy, France September 23-29, 2018

August 3-18 Sonoma Cider Week events

August 8th Backyard Cider Salon at Handline Restaurant part of Sonoma Cider Week

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Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

• Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio , Spotify and wherever you love to listen to podcasts.
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• Twitter @ciderchat
• Instagram: @ciderchatciderville
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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

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