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New Zealand's Peckham Cider is featured in this podcast episode #139. I was able to sit down with Alex Peckham at CiderCon2018 held in Baltimore, Maryland. CiderCon is the annual trade conference put on by the United States Association of Cider Makers every year.

Because I live in the northern hemisphere, I have long been very curious about the apple growing and cidermaking schedule in the southern hemisphere. Here are just some of my questions.

• When is Apple Blossom season?
• How long is the growing season?
• When do they make cider?

The answers to many of these questions surprised me. For instance, unlike my region of the world (Massachusetts) where we have a very short window for growing and picking apples for cider - September to November, New Zealanders enjoy an incredibly long apple growing season.

Alex also shares tips on how he makes cider working with both cultured an wild yeast.

Alex is full of cider knowledge and an absolutely delightful man with wit and insight that helps make this chat a must listen. Who knew that hares could be such a problem in the orchard?

January - Summer time in New Zealand

• Thinning, cleaning and clearing of the orchard as the trees are fully laden with apple

February - Picking Cider Apples:

• Knotted Cornell
• Muscadet de Dieppe

March

• Kingston Black
• Kingston Brown

April into June

• Apple harvest continues

June

• Apple pressing begins

July

• Wassail
• Pruning of apple trees

August - September

• Pruning continues

September - October

• The south island of New Zealand experiences a long blossom time that runs through these two months

November

• Baby apples are growing on the trees

December

• The heat is back on as this region of the world is heading full steam into summer

Peckham's Ciders

• Classic range - which have cider with fruit
  • Good fruit, moderate sweetness with balanced acid, tiny bit of bitterness and astringency
• Special Release Ciders - one a month special blends
  • High component of wild fermentation

Contact Peckham's Cider

Website: https://www.peckhams.co.nz/

eMail: [email protected]

No Tasting Room at this site

Imported into the US by Shelton Brothers

Mentions in this Chat

• Totally Cider Tour: Normandy France - deadline to sign up August 14th.
  • September 23rd - September 29th
• Whale Rider - I highly recommend this timeless movie filmed in New Zealand that features Maori actors and their tradition.
• Visting Luxembourg? Listen to episode 129 with Carlos Hein of Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
• Heading to the UK late August? Go to the Ross Cider Fest August 31- September 2, Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
• Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
• When In Philadelphia stop in at Kurant Cider's Fishtown tasting room.

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Richard Liu is the Chair of the Ontario Craft Cider Association and owner of Ironwood Cider and Sunnybrook Winery. This chat was recorded while I was on tour with Ryan Monkman of Fieldbird Cider (Prince Edward County) who sponsored my cider tour of Ontario's craft cidermakers.

Richard's Background

Richard was born in Taiwan and his family moved to Canada when he was ten. Before buying Sunnybrook/Ironwood he worked in Asia in what he described as the corporate world. He and his wife decided to move back to Canada and start a business to provide their children with a countryside setting.

Richard took over the fruit winery Sunnybrook in 2013 and began making cider under the brand Ironwood, which was also part of the original winery.

The current facility at Sunnybrook/Ironwood is around 1600 square feet. During the summer of 2018 they are building a 10,000 square foot building for both the winery and cidermaking operations. Behind the tasting room is an orchard of peach trees. The plan is to replant the orchard with pears.

Richard and 5 other "guys" started the Ontario Craft Cider Association in 2012. The first chairman of this association was Nick Sutcliffe of Pommies Cider Company in Caledon, Ontario. The Association current membership is around 40 makers. It is the only craft cider association in Ontario

Terminology used in this chat and info on Canada for cider drinkers

• OCCA - Ontario Craft Cider Association
• VQA - Vintner's Quality Alliance
• LCBO - Liquor Control Board of Ontario
• Drinking age begins at 19 in Canada.

Key players that the Association has to work with in Canada

• Ministry of Agriculture
• Ministry of Finance
• LCBO - is a government run liquor store where you can find craft cider, beer, wine and spirits

Contact Ironwood Hard Cider

• Website: https://ironwoodcider.ca/home
• eMail: [email protected]
• Address:
  • 1425 Lakeshore RoadNiagara-on-The-Lake, OntarioL0S 1J0
• Telephone: +1 905-468-1122

Visit Ironwood Store Hours:

• May 1st through October 31st:Daily 10am – 6pm
• November 1st through April 30th:Daily 11am – 5pm

Mentions in this chat

• August 24 & 25 Toronto Cider Fest, Ontario | Canada
• August 31 & September 2 - 2018 Ross Cider Festival - Herefordshire | UK
• 137: Ontario's County Cider Story | Jenifer Dean
• 135 Viejo High Pours Fishtown | Philadelphia
• Nick Sutcliffe of Pommies Cider Company
• Ernest Cider - Michelle Faris

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1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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County Cider based in Prince Edward County in the Canadian Province of Ontario began selling cider in 1996. It was launched by Grant Howes a formidable man considered the Grandfather of Cider in Ontario. In 2000 Jenifer Dean who had studied winemaking joined up with County Cider. Her husband Grant passed away unexpectedly in January 2017 when he had a heart attack in his sleep.

Jenifer Dean tells the story of County Cider's past, present and future in this walkabout chat with Ria at the onsite location overlooking Prince Edward Bay in Ontario.

Historical Facts on Canadian cider

Ontario cider had a number of setbacks related to Prohibition, but also due to the Ontario government's "Pullout Program" paying farmers to pull out trees. Unfortunately they had no pay out program farmers to plant trees.

County Cider grows a number of cider varieties

• Kingston Black
• Dabinet
• Michelin
• Yarlington Mill
• Bulmers Norman
• Benet Rouge
• Brown Snout
• Frequin rogue

Ciders at County Cider

• Modern ciders made in with Fruit essence, such as peach and pear cider.
• Traditional ciders such as Tortured Path made with a blend of bitter sharp and bitter sweet.
• Ice cider made by allowing the apples (Ida Red) to freeze on the tree.

Visiting County Cider

• Tasting Room and Retail Store - Open May 12th through October 31st
  • 10:30 a.m. - 6 p.m.
• Patio Restaurant open 7 days a week 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.

Contact County Cider

Website: https://www.countycider.com/

Address:

• 657 Bongards Crossroad, Waupoos, ON, K0K 2T0

Find County Cider in Ontario

http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/search?searchTerm=county+cider

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1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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This is a mini version of the main podcast this week - as I am super duper busy - so I call this "Cider Chat Live" which is a mini me version of the main podcast - Subscribe to Cider Chat Live too via https://anchor.fm/ciderchat

In this episode, Nathan details how he made his winning Ice Cider that launched him into the US based National Homebrew Competition that was held in Portland Oregon at the end of this past June.

******next year's competition takes place in Rhode Island!

Nathan Williams is a member of the Boston Wort Processors , a homebrew club. He got the apple juice for his award winning cider from Cider Hill based in Amesbury, Massachusetts. Go the "Mentions in this Chat" below and find the link to Chadd Cook the cidermaker at Cider Hill episode on ice cidermaking.

Cidermaking Tips used by Nathan

• White Labs - 720 Sweet Mead Yeast - because it wouldn't ferment dry
• He monitors his ciders with a temperature controlled chamber
• Tilt Hydrometer that floats in the fermenter.
  • You can look at your carboy and can see the current specific gravity

Nathan was looking for an ice cider that had clean acidity

Mentions in this chat

• Chad Cook - episode 109http://ciderchat.com/109-ice-cider-w-chadd-cook/

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1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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Viejo is a barrel aged cider made by Joe Getz of Kurant Cider. This cider is a single varietal cider made with Winchester apples.

Described on Kurants website as:

"a blend of wild fermented ciders created by using some of the best apples we could source in Pennsylvania. The ciders used to blend Viejo were aged for 6-18 months in oak before being used in the finished product. Viejo is a still cider meaning non-carbonated. It's meant to be served with a long pour from great heights to aerate and add effervescence." Joe in the barrel room[/caption]

In this chat taste and talk Viejo and follow up with Joe on the opening of the Fishtown taproom, which much like Viejo took over a year to build out.

A Porron is used by Kurant Cider for in high pours of cider/sidra

A 19th century carriage house was renovated into the new Taproom, which has an upstairs (The Attic) and a main floor serving area. The giant garage door rolls up and the entire taproom opens to the outdoors.

Listen to Joe Getz on previous episodes of Cider Chat #14 & #82

Joe carrying cases of Kurant to Ria's car. Hot Dang! Thanks Joe!!![/caption]

Fishtown Taproom Hours

• Monday - Closed
• Tuesday - Closed
• Wednesday 4 -10pm
• Thursday 4 -10pm
• Friday 4 -12am
• Saturday 12pm - 12am
• Sunday 12pm - 9pm

Fishtown Address

• 436 E. Girard Ave
• Philadelphia, PA 19125

Fishtown Telephone: (267) 928-3620

Website: http://www.kurantcider.com/fishtown/

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

What are Medlars?

• Medlars are pommes.
• It can be either a tree or a large bush.
• The small brown medlars are picked in the fall. Because Medlars are eaten in the winter months they were very popular at a time when fruit was not easily accessible during winter months.
• To Blet a Medlar, means that this pomme is allowed to over ripen to the point of almost being rotten.

How to eat a Medlar

• Wait until the medlar provides a smell of apple and figs - this tell you that the medlar is really ripe
• peal off the outer layer of skin
• squeeze off the green tail end.
• Plop the whole medlar in your mouth or eat with a spoon

The Eastern States Exposition annual Cider and Perry competition is now in its 3rd year. The short local name for the exposition is "Big E", which is fair held over two weeks, on the second weekend after Labor Day. In preparation for this year's Big E a wine, cider and perry competition took place. The wine segment has been running for over 13 years! Cider and Perry as noted is now 3 years in the running.

This year's judging for the upcoming Big E, took place on June 9, 2018. There were over 50 ciders entered from all five New England states and New York.

The judging was held on the ground of the Big E and wine judges were also present, naturally sitting away from the cider judges

The Big E cider judges for 2018

• Charlie O'chowski - Founding members of CiderDays
• Mark Gryska - CiderDays Competition Director
• April Woodard - Wild Child Cellars
• Curt Sherrer - Millstone Cellars and Wild Child Cellars
• Emily Kovach editor of Cider Culture, an online cider publication.
• Ria Windcaller, Cider Chat Producer and Host

Big benefits for medal winners

• All medal winners are displayed in the Wine and Cheese Barn during The Big E exposing New England Ciders to a potential audience of over 1.8 million Fairgoers.
• Wine and Cheese Barn participants are able to sell and promote their ciders with one-on-one direct sales.
• All winners entering 2 or more ciders will be able to sign up for a day to sell ciders in the Barn for the day. Eastern States Exposition takes care of all the busy work, maintaining your inventory, setting up your display in the shop, and ringing up all your sales for the day! Cider Makers will be expected to pour, sample and build relationships with patrons.

The Best is Show judging was recorded during this competition and is featured on this episode of Cider Chat.

The winner was Redfield cider produced by West County Cider, Massachusetts. Maker, Field Maloney is featured on episode 1 of Cider Chat

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Attention Cider Makers! Understand Your Cider's Chemical Fingerprints

John Edwards presented "Cider's Chemical Fingerprints" at the United States Association of Cider Makers (now referred to as the American Cider Association) annual conference in Baltimore Maryland (CiderCon) in February 2018.

The full title of this workshop was The Complex Fingerprint Analysis of Cider and other Alcoholic Beverages by Quantitative NMR Spectroscopy.

Cider's Chemical Fingerprints Power Point Sync with Audio

Watch the YouTube video of John's presentation complete with power point.

What is NMR and how it is used with Cider's Chemical Fingerprint

• Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) spectroscopy is an analytical chemistry technique used in quality control and research for determining the content and purity of a sample as well as its molecular structure.

What can NMR Spectroscopy do for Cider?

• Interested in nutritional labels?
• Wonder what the cost is to do an analysis and get your own label?
• Have a stuck fermentation?
• Trying to set up a baseline for tracking terroir?
• Need help analyzing cider or other beverages?

NMR can do all of the above, albeit not all of this is now being done with cider. However in the wine industry NMR is used to track vintages and terroir, so it is perhaps just a matter of time.

Contact info for John Edwards

• Website: Process NMR Associates
• eMail: [email protected]
• Telephone: (845) 240-1177
• Address:
  • 84 Patrick Lane, Suite 115, Poughkeepsie, NY 12603-2936

In this Cider Chat

• Cider Chat in the News
  • Cider Culture – Resources to Up Your DIY Cider Education

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Bâtonnage is a winemaking technique that is also used in Cidermaking. It involves raking the lees or what is seen as the heavy particulars of yeast cells that fall out of solution and down to the bottom of the barrel during primary fermentation. Bâtonnage is all about stirring the lees back into solution. Makers like Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider and Lee Baker of Keint-He Winery and Vineyards discuss and demo this technique in this episode #132

Go to Cider Chat YouTube Channel and view clip Ryan demonstrating the stirring in of the lees - Bâtonnage.

Key topics discussed in this chat

• What is Malolactic Fermentation:
• The sounds of cider and what it is telling you during fermentation
• Barrel Cellar design
• Comparison between two barrels to manage the barrel
  • One did not go through Malolactic fermentation (MLF) manage the ferment by adding sulfur to stop the MLF from happening.
  • The other did go through malolactic fermentation.
• Managing the Lees | Lees contact
• What does lee contact on the cider provide?
• Bâtonnage
• What to do when Film Yeast appears in your barrel or carboy

Find the full show notes for Episode 495 at CiderChat.com

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Cider Barrel Maintenance

The craft of making an oak barrel is called "cooperage" and the person who applies this craft is called a "cooper". The skills of this trade have been passed down through the centuries. The tree and the wood chosen to become a barrel has to meet specific criteria, such as having a tight grain and flavor profiles that lend the tannin qualities often sought in a cider barrel.

From the classic wide belly barrels to oval shaped vessels, the shape of wooden barrels have changed very little over time. Quality control over the wood used and the intricacies of heat, stave bending, and maintenance of cider barrels continues to evolve.

This episode 131 was recorded in Saint Catharine, Ontario during a dinner chat with Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider, Thierry Lemaire of Nuance Winery Supplies and Louis of Radoux, a cooperage based in Santa Rosa California and France.

All three men have extensive knowledge on barrel use with wine. As the cider market continues to grow and both the consumer's and cidermakers interest in ciders fermented or stored in oak increases, barrel maintenance is undoubtedly a hot topic and a key market for these specialist in the art of oak barrel cooperage and fermentation.

As we enjoy a bottle of Ryan's FieldBird cider over dinner the four of us discuss oak barrel selection and maintenance, which in short narrows down to the broader topic of Barrel Skills. Whereas the wine industry has been working with oak barrels for centuries, cidermakers particularly in the US and Canada, are only now gaining speed with cider post Prohibition.

Key topics in this chat:

• Finding the right oak barrel for your cider
• Barrel Maintenance:
• Cleaning a barrel
• Storing a barrel
  • - wet or dry storage
  • - burning a sulfur disk
• Leaky barrels - mechanical (cooperage) or maker mismanagement?
• Using Wax on a barrel to stop evaporation
• Buying a new barrel

Contact Info for the guest in this episode

Thierry Lemaire

• Website: Nuance Winery Supplies
• eMail: mailto:[email protected]
• Address: 15 Lloyd Street
• St Catharines, ON L2S 2N7 - Canada
• Telephone: +1 905-225-0114

Louis Zandvliet

• Website: Radoux
• Address:
  • 480 Aviation Blvd.
  • Santa Rosa, CA 95403
• Telephone: (707) 284-2888

Ryan Monkman

• FieldBird Cider
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fieldbird.cider/

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• Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

Cider Voices from Grand Rapids Cider Week and the Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition

On the evening of May 14th Joby Willson, Mark Gryska, Charlie Olchowski and William Grote and myself headed out in a big old van to Grand Rapids, thanks to Mike Beck who invited us and hosted us throughout the week. Beck who he is lovingly called by all manages GLINTCAP and hires a team of people to run the program. Look to the GLINTCAP link to see the whole team.

Once we arrived in Grand Rapids the guys stayed on one side of the river at their flat and I got to hang out with Michelle McGrath, Executive Director of the United States Association of Cider Makers, Michelle Pagona aka The Brew Babe and Darlene Hayes, author of Cider Cocktails; Another Bite of the Apple.

That evening we headed to Uncle Johns Hard Cider for dinner. Nicole Ward of Forgotten Ciders (listen to Nicole and Rafe Wards chat #74), Brian and Ambrosia from Chicago's cider bar The Northman, Helen Thomas "Weston" of Weston Cider, UK and Bob Chaplin both came over from the UK to judge. Helen is the Chairwoman for the National Cider Maker Association in the UK and Weston Ciders. Bob runs the Royal Bath and West Cider Competition. It was an amazing evening riding about the orchards and tasting ciders in their inviting tasting room. Mike and Dee are quite the hosts and I highly recommend you visit their cidery in Saint John's, Michigan.

Wednesday May 16th began with a Cider Tour of West Michigan Makers

• Stop 1: Cider n Donuts @ Peoples Cider
• Stop 2: Cider n Shopping @ Robinette's Orchards & Cider Mill
• Stop 3: Cider n Lunch @ Vandermill/GR
• Stop 4: Cider n Blossoms @ Ridge Cider
• Stop 5: Cider Sipping @ PUX Cider

That evening it was Judges Training led by Charles McGonegal Listen to two chat with Charles: 83 -on his Wisconsin cidery AEppelTreow Winery and #84 on the Element of Cider | Sensory Analysis

Thursday and Friday was dedicated to Judging of the Ciders Saturday was the Gillett Bridge Cider Fest in Grand Rapids

Mentions in this chat

• Bottle Share June 8th 5-9pm Spoke and Spy Ciderworks, Middletown, Connecticut.
• James Creek Cider House - Moore County, South Caroline
• Huon Vally Mid-Winter Fest July 13-July 15, 2018 - Prize for spinning a story via the Story Tellers Cup
  • 031: Sam Reid, Willie Smiths Cider | Tasmania and President of Cider Australia
  • 59: Hugh McKellar - Australian Cider Writer at Real Cider Reviews and on episode 059
  • 088 Tasmainia Patrick Meagher - Simple Ciders

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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