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Araújo Monte, Lda is Portugal's first commercial cidery for the country that borders Spain and its million of Sidra drinking fans.

Marlene Sofia Sousa Araújo whom I speak to in this chat, with the help of Anzu Fernandez as translator, was trained to be a scientist. When she and Patrícia Araújo Monte entered into a contest for entrepreneurs and decided to look at making cider as part of this project, they had no idea that they would win. With the winnings they received basic infrastructure to help launch the cidery along with help for specialist such as enologist (winemakers). Today the cidery has three partners, Marlene, Patrícia and Pedro Miguel Bravo de Faria

Marlene has been making cider since 2011. She received her degree in Biotechnology at Instituto Politécnico de Viana do Castelo [IPVC] thinking she was headed for a career in science. So suffice to say, she didn't plan on becoming a cidermaker.

Araújo Monte, Lda is a costal cidery. They are currently using all sorts of apples and are trying to distinguish which ones create the correct blend. Currently the main apples used are culinary or table apples.

They cidery uses steel tanks.

With winemaking so prominent in Portugal they use wine yeast.

The first cider they made is called Corrupia 6.0% alcoho by volume

Since I spoke to Marlene they now have a new cider on the market called "Cider Sparkling Corrupia" (7.0%)

Who are the cider drinkers in Portugal?

That remains to be seen who will be the cider drinkers in Portugal. Right now they are looking to the drinkers who look outside of the box. Attending the International Hall of Gala Ciders was one of the key reasons why Marlene and Patrícia traveled to Asturias so that they could get a better understanding of the market worldwide. The Portuguese wine cultural is dominant and Araújo Monte has a big task ahead of them to win over their country's thirst.

Who governs cider in Portugal?

It falls under the wine label…sort of. Right now it looks like

"Araújo Monte really doesn't have any limitations because they are setting the standard in Portugal for cider."

There are no limitation on the alcohol level because it is the first cidery in Portugal.

Contact info for Araújo Monte

Address:

• Old Cooperative of Estorãos
• Place of Tenães
• Nº 5 4990-590 Estorãos -bridge From Lima

Telephone +351924404831.

Where can their cider be found, besides going to Araújo Monte.

• Shops in Lisbon
• Porto
• Bridge from Lima
• Viana do Castelo.

Follow this cidery on the Facebook page for Sidra Minho

Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35

Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60

Ethic Ciders - California

Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56

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This week's cider podcast episode is a mini recap of Chicago Cider Week events, CiderCon, and 20 chats w/Cider Enthusiasts including recordings from the The Northman on February 7, 2017.

20 chats! Dang that was amazing. I hope you enjoy going deep into Ciderville like I do.

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Ask for the following 6 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

1. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
2. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
3. Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
5. The Cider Project - California
6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56

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Cider Chat will be at the Chicago Cider Summit February 11, 2017

Llorenç Frigola of Mooma cidery, in the Catalonia province of Girona is an Agricultural Engineer by trade who works with a fruit cooperative that has been growing apples for the past 50 years. The cidery started in 2013.

This area of Spain, unlike Asturias, the Basque region, or Cantabria has had no production of cider at all. Mooma looked to providing a value added product to their market. Their goal is to meet the local market that leans towards Champagne and Cava wine (a Catalonia wine made in the champenoise traditional method).

Mooma, stores apples and presses throughout the year. The cider is fermented then micro filtered and the flagship cider and some sugar is added. It is bottled in both 12 ounce bottles and boxed cider as one would find in the UK.

Mooma grew out of the desire to provide value added product to the cooperative's current offerings as Llorenç says, "Our goal is to show to the Cantalan people all that is possible with apples"

What kind of apples does Mooma use?

• Gala
• Golden
• Red Delicious
• Granny Smith
• Fuji
• Pink Lady

Where did Llorenç learn cidermaking?

• Traveling about to cider destinations.

AND Reading books on cider

• Claude Joceleur The New Cider Maker Handbook
• Annie Proulx and Lew Nichols - Cider

Who drinks cider in Catalonia?

• Young people

Mooma ciders are in the range of 5.5% to 6%

Catalonia market expanding and experimenting

• Planting 30 varieties from France, Asturias, West County and Italy
• Investing in genetics for cider production.

Traveling to Catalonia?

• The biggest local airport is Barcelona
• The Girona airport is a 100 kilometers to Mooma

Contacting Mooma Cider

• website: http://mooma.cat/
• Twitter: @moomacider
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moomacider/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=mooma

The actual location if you Google it is

• Unnamed Road 17256, Fontanilles, Province of Girona, Spain

or

from the website:

• Mas Saulot, s/n
• Palau Sator 17256

Telephone: +34 972 75 56 89

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CiderCon February 8th through 10th, 2017

Ask for the following #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

• Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
• Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
• Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
• Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
• The Cider Project - California
• Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56

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Cider Chat at The Northman (Chicago Cider Bar) February 7, 2017 at 4:30pm

Stop on by and let's chat! I have a list of fun cider topics to chat with you for an upcoming podcast.

Cider Chat at Chicago Cider Summit February 11, 2017 Look for the Cider Chat table where I will be recording mini chats with attendees and offering Cider Chat baseball caps.

Luis Ravina Pisaca's title is enology or enologist, which means he is responsible for the cidermaking at Posma cidery in Tenerife, one of seven islands in the Canary Islands that are located in the Atlantic Ocean off the northwestern coast of Africa. Posma has been producing cider for 4-5 years.

Luis was attending the International Hall of Gala Ciders in Gijon, Asturias in September 2016. We recorded this chat on the steps outside that all day cider fest.

Posma makes a Sidra Natural which is actually a Brut. Though named Sidra Natural don't expect the typical acetic taste that one might find in the many delicious Asturian Sidras. Posma produced 4000 bottles of this cider in 2016. It is corked and bottle conditioned. The clarity is brilliant. The taste profile is a blend of UK and Asturian, showcasing the best of both those region's (UK and Asturias) ciders. It is light and delicate making it a fine special occasion cider, while providing a savory "Umami" backdrop, with a whisper of acidity. The complexity encourages one to slow down, while at the same time I wanted to gulp back the bottle as my thirst grew for more.

Why did Luis start producing cider?

To address the loss of so many apples that were not being used on Tenerife, Posma began making cider.

What kind of apples varieties do they have?

Tenerife primarily has Reineta (Spanish), Reinnette (as written in French) and Rennet as written in English. apples. It is a yellow skin apple, which is more like a tan than bright yellow.

What is the apple growing scene like on Tenerife?

• 50-60 hectares (123-148 acres) of apples trees on the island
• It is a very desert climate, but they do get snow in the mountains.
• The Canary Islands have the highest mountains of any other islands in the world- some are 12000'+
• Apples have been grown on the Canary Islands since 1850
• Gran Canaria had the first cidery called Gran Valle

What are the ciders like that Posma makes?

• They use the Champagne method for producing their Brut
• They only make one style of cider

Does Posma have a Tasting Room?

• Call ahead to make an appointment.

How is the reception to cider in the area?

• Everyone is enjoying cider, both men and women, young and old

Visiting and Landing into the Canary Islands

There are two airport on the island, but the international airport is Los Tenerife North Airport, formerly "Los Rodeos Airport" as Luis refers to it. It is located in San Cristóbal de La Laguna. Los Tenerife is 10 kilometers from Posma cidery.

Contact Posma

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/POSMA-Brut-312882982231159/

eMail: [email protected]

Address: Tomas Zerolo 46

38300 La Orotava, Tenerife

phone: + 687 842 010

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Przemek Map of Polish cideries http://bit.ly/2jOkf2A

Przemek says, "Blue colors - is big cider "factories" (low quality) and green - small, micro cider mills with quality products."

Going to Chicago Cider Week?

Want a Cider Chat baseball cap? Send me an email [email protected]

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CiderCon February 8th through 10th, 2017

Ask for the following 4 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14

Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60

The Cider Project - California

Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56

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February 7, 2017 at 4:30pm

Cider Chat at The Northman

recording chats with patrons on Cider Stories!

Brian Rutzen is the Cider Director at Chicago's first cider bar, The Northman managing 20 taps of cider, 5 craft beers and in total over a 100 options of cider to partake at this 63 seat bar.

We chat how The Northman helps patrons understand cider, how it is poured, cellaring cider, cider with food, and lots of tips for attendees heading to the windy city for CiderCon (the annual cider conference for members of the United States Association of Cider Makers).

Chicago is a city of neighborhoods - with many of the names reflecting the immigrant groups that settled there. Pilsen for instance got its name from the Czech immigrants and is now housing many Mexican immigrants.

Brian says "Chicago is setup as a grid." Making it fairly easy to get about

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O'Hare Airport apple history

What does the airport code ORD stand for at this mighty Chicago hub?

Answer: Orchard Field

Taxi to Downtown from O'Hare Airport: $50 bucks (this is not absolute, might be more)

Public Transport from O'Hare to Downtown -$2 (might be a bit more but, no more than $5)

What to expect for cider options in Chicago?

Brian says that most bars nowadays have at least 2 ciders on tap

Transportation around Chicago?

Uber - Take lake shore drive to get to The Northman from Chicago CiderCon2017 for $15 bucks. Use the promo code CIDERCHAT10 for $10 off your first Uber ride.

Taking the L train from downtown to The Northman will take you 45 minutes

Contact info for Brian and The Northman

Brian's Twitter handle: @ChicagoCider

website The Northman

address: 4337 N. Lincoln Ave, Chicago

telephone: 773-935-2255

Twitter @TheNorthmanChi

CiderCon February 8th through 10th, 2017Mentions in this Chat

Chicago Cider Summit February 11, 2017

Jake Melnick's Corner Tap Known for wings and having cider on draft

Vandermill Cider

Places to stop in on Randolph Street as mentioned on this chat

Girl & The Goat

Little Goat

Duck Duck Spin

809 W Randolph Street

Chicago, Illinois

Au Cheval

800 W. Randolph Street

312-929-4580

Kaiser Tiger -

1415 W. Randolph Street

German Sausage, great tastes made with bacon

Cider on Tap

Outside in the Winter: Curling!!!

Listen to the following French cider podcast episodes to prepare for the CiderCon Tastings

049: Agathe Letellier | Manior d"apreval | Normandy - France

050: Didier Bedue |President I.D.A.C., France

057 Eric Bordelet | Normandy, France Part 1

Ask for the following 4 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California

The Cider Project - California

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Bartosz Gałka is one of three partner at the Polish cidery "Slow Flow Group". Along with Łukasz Sobór, Jakub Lorek and Jakub's father,Marcin Lorek, who makes wine and consults to this project they are helping to put Polish cider on the world map. The cidermaking tradition in Poland dates back to the 16th century, but is only recently gearing up once again..

Slow Flow Group has been making cider since 2011 and marketing it since 2014. It took 2 years to get permitted to sell cider in Poland.

I met up with Bartosz in Asturias, Spain in September of 2016 while we were both attending the International Hall of Gala Ciders.

Slow Flow Group is using apples from local orchards, with most of the trees being 70-80 years old. There is no sugar nor sulfites added to this company's ciders.

The primary Apples used by Slow Flow Group:

• Grochówka
• Kronselka
• Szara - Złota Reneta
• starking
• Pepina
• Malinówka
• Pinowa
• Antonówka

They press apples using a Hydraulic press called "Big Mama" which is a basket press

Polish terms in cider and spelling

• Cider in Poland is spelled "Cydr" or Jabłecznik
• Kupaż - to blend cider also written as "coupage"

The Polish Craft Cider Association is: Polskie Cydry Autorskie

Where to find Slow Flow Group's ciders:

Selling locally to wine bars and "good" restaurants, and

• Czech Republic
• Slovakia
• and exploring Northern Spain

Bartosz says, that there "Is a Tasting Room" at the cidery.

Contact for Bartosz Gałka and Slow Flow Group

eMail: [email protected]

Website: http://slowflowgroup.pl/

Address: Komorniki 28

Raciechowice, Poland 32-415

Telephone: +787932582

Bottles Artwork done by Agata Strzelecka from Warsaw

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YouTube clip and song "Forfiter Blues" a sung by the Polish group MerC 'N CeZik

Przemek Ivanich's cider blog: Piwo I Cyder on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/piwoicydr/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

Events

• Cider Chat at The Northman (Chicago Cider Bar) February 7, 2017 at 4:30pm
• CiderCon February 8th through 10th, 2017
• Chicago Cider Summit February 11, 2017

Cider Chat Podcast Episodes:

049: Agathe Letellier | Manior d"apreval | Normandy - France 050: Didier Bedue |President I.D.A.C., France 057 Eric Bordelet | Normandy, France Part 1

Ask for the following 4 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California

The Cider Project - California

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Alvar Roosimaa turned towards cidermaking after deciding to move out of the capital of Estonia, Tallinn. He bought a country house approximately an hour and a half to the south Tallinn with his wife Veronika.

It was at this country house that the name of the cidery was found. Alvar tells the story of finding a copper tube, which is a typical container used by Estonians for holding documents, in a rubbish pile onsite. Inside this tube the original deed of the house was placed along with a colored map of the property. The farm's name was Jannihanso! When you look at the label, you will see that the name "JanniHanso" is using the original old world German handwriting for the name

The Jaanihanso cidery started commercial actives in 2013. In 2016, this Estonian cidery began working towards exporting.

This past year (2016) they pressed enough apples to have 60,000 litters (15,850 gallons) of apple juice.

Cider Tradition in Estonia?

• Cider is very traditional. Locals call it "apple wine".
• Every house has a small crusher and small press that has been handed down through the generations

Jaanihanso is the first commercial operation in Estonia

Since, Jaanihanso launched there are now 2-3 other commercial enterprises taking root, where they are making cider at another location versus being orchard based. Alvar used a fun term calling these ciders "gypsy cidermakers".

Alvar uses only wild yeast for the primary fermentation.

The champagne method is used during a secondary fermentation.

And this cidery also makes a hopped cider.

Where to find Jaanihanso?

• Estonia
• Finland
• Ireland
• Norwary
• Denmark
• Hong Kong
• Australia

Contact Info for Jaanihanso

• Cidermaker: Alvar Roosimaa
• email: [email protected]
• Website: http://www.jaanihanso.ee/en/
• Telephone: +372 51 20874
• Location: 87215 Parnumaa
• Õuna, Kaelase Village, Estonia

Mentions in this Chat!

Carrs Cider House

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Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California

The Cider Project - California

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Anzu Fernández has been selected as Cider Chat's pick for the Sexiest Cider Dude of 2017!

picture credit: La Sidra

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This title is not given freely nor is it due to the fact that Asturias happens to have some of the biggest cider cojones around. I mean geez Louise! Roman historian Estraban said sometime back in 60 BC about Asturias "They scarcely have wine, but they drink a lot of cider." I'm thinking that this American might think twice about bragging next time about the big whoop fact that President John Adams drank cider 200 years ago.

Anzu is the International Delegate for Asturian XXI Foundation, speaks 15 languages, works for La Sidra, and is a medical doctor who is beginning his residency working towards perhaps neurosurgery. His resume is impressive, but what really inspired this podcaster is his Cider Bold. He is both knowledgeable and has a keen ability to speak with grace and conviction on cider not only in Asturias but in the rest of the world and yes that is not only intriguing it is exactly what cider needs right now in 2017!

Dr. Fernández

His unabashed view that the cider industry should without a doubt support their country's cider journalist and yes a podcast like Cider Chat which helps to promote cider around the globe, is expect in Asturias and as such a no-brainer for other cider producers around the world.

Yes Anzu isn't afraid to speak up and provide the cider community with a healthy boot in the ass. Plus, the fact that Asturians know how to party like no other people I have ever met in the world absolutely seals the deal for his new title!

In this chat we discuss Asturias' cider culture and how to drink Sidra

Anzu's Tasting notes for Sidra in Asturias

• Expect Bitterness
• A blend of bittersweet and sweet apples
• 6 apples in each bottle

Interesting facts on cider production in Asturias

• There are 2500 "Asturian only"varieties of cider apples
• 200 of the apples are endemic to only Asturia
• Every brand of Natural Sidra, has at the minimum 6 varieties of apples in the blend
• There are many different associations in Asturias. Also different standards for the Cider Bars (Siderias)
• Basque cider is consider more acidic than Asturian cider
• Asturias produces 100,000,000 liters of Sidra per year
• This region also produces 50,000,000 liters of sparkling Sidra
• There are Cider pourer competitions
• The average consumption of cider in Asturias is 45 liters per year
• In Gijon the population consumes 65 liters/per person/per year for every single person in the city – that is only for Natural Sidra, this does not include, liquors or sparkling Sidra

How to drink Sidra

• Begin with a long pour or the "Colene", where the cider is poured from at least a meter from bottle to glass, to release the carbonic gases.
• The glass is held on a slight angle to catch the pour.
• About an 1/8 of a cup is poured into each glass
• It should be frothy and drunk right away. One does not sniff and swill the cider.

Instead, Sidra is gulped back, except for a small amount which you leave in the glass to be poured out to the ground on the side of the glass where you just drank and then passed back to the pourer who will then serve another person out of the same glass.

The Annual International Hall of Gala Ciders takes place September, usually at the end of the month in Xixón, Asturias.

Contact info for Anzu Fernández

• email: [email protected]
• Address: Decano Prendes Pando 11
• 33208 (Xixon Asturias
• Telephone: +(34) 652 594 983
• Websites for Las Sidra
• LA SIDRA in English:https://www.lasidra.net/en/home/

See all the videos of the Musée du Poiré by visiting the Cider Chat YouTube Channel

The Maison de la Pomme et Poire (House of apple and Pear) was created in 1983 in Barenton by the Normandy-Maine Regional Nature Park. In June 25, 2016 it reopened, after a bit of new construction, as the Musée du Poiré.

In this episode, we discuss the Route du Poiré which can be followed along in this region of Normandy, and trying to find the Musée du Poiré.

It all began when The Nose and I having only one day left in France, after our chat with Eric Bordelet, decided to head in the opposite direction of where we needed to go, so that we could visit the museum on all things Perry or Poiré, as it is said in French.

The museum has ample parking and is Free and open from April 1st to October 15th – Do double check as these dates might change.

It is closed on May 1st

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Scrumping, gluten intolerance and the ingenuity of two sisters helped launched Santa Cruz Cider Company in 2010 and licensed in 2013.

Scrumping: Taking apples from a forgotten orchard and one that is owned by someone else.

When Nicole Todd and sister Natalie Henze found a forgotten orchard loaded with apples, they decided to go scrumping. That orchard is now owned by a friend and since then they have been offered to use an even larger family orchard dating back to 1880! The apples trees from both orchards are at least 100 years old and you can taste the terroir.

The sisters and family hand pick all the apples and press using a Bladder Press.

Nicole and I did a vertical tasting of the Barrel Aged Gravenstein Cider. We discuss the use of champagne yeast and the competition that took place in the barrel between the champagne yeast that was pitched and the wild yeast culture that was already in the bottle.

What's an Apple Pretzel? Taking a shoot/sucker on an apple tree and wrapping it around in a pretzel shape while pruning. In time, the pretzel fuses, enlarges and helps provide more growth on the tree...and also creates a nice hand hold for apple pickers.

Where to get Santa Cruz Cider?

Go to the following link to find all the locations in Santa Cruz where it can be found on tap. In 2017 the company expects to be expanding their reach of distribution. Do stay tuned.

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Contact Info for Santa Cruz Cider Company

Website: santacruzciderco.com

Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/santacruzciderco/

eMail:

[email protected]

[email protected]

Go to 5:55 minutes in to listen Mini Chat with Mathew Austin of Bivoac Cider in San Diego California

Bivouac is slated to open in April of 2017. Look for a full service Tasting Room and Restaurant. It will be located in the North Park region of San Diego, just a 10 minute ride from the Airport.

Contact for Bivouac Cider

Website http://www.bivouaccider.com/

Note that Bivouac will be ramping up its website. For now you might find a fusion of the cider info and a bit of Mathew's other passion…working out and outdoor adventure.

Twitter: @bivouaccider

Instagram: https://instagram.com/bivouaccider/

Mentions in this chat:

012: Randall Grahm | Bonny Doon Vineyard, California

Jeff's Cider Recipes via BBC Food Recipes This link provides over 275 recipes for to incorporate cider into your cooking.

Ask for the following 3 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver's Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California

The Cider Project - California

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