Bobby and Jens catch up with the one of the co-creators of America's dominant criterium team Legion Cory Williams. In this laid back chat Cory tells the boys about his journey from football, what he wants other teams to copy from Legion and the reveals a little of their winning formula.

This episode is presented by Zwift. It's a Velonews production in association with Shocked Giraffe. The Producer is Mark Payne and this episode was edited by Tim Mossa.