Rachael is my friend in real life. Not only is this episode proof that I have friends, it's also an exploration into what creating art in the "in-between" looks like. Rach is someone who says things that are so profound that I have to whip out my notebook in real life to write it down. I knew that we had to record one of our discussions for the podcast. This particular chat centered around what living as an artist means, practically. Looking for space to grow, but still giving ourselves safety. Using all the different bits of life, taking what we need, and turning them (sometimes) into art that is true.

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