Cutting Against The Grain

Cutting Against The Grain

By Laura Spath and Judy ChoHealth & FitnessNutrition
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Cutting Against The Grain episodes

  • 72. Raw vs. Cooked – The Risk of Perfection

    In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about raw vs. cooked meat and the implications of striving and advocating for perfection.

    1. Raw vs. cooked historically
    2. Raw vs cooked studies
    3. Stool tests
    4. Bacteria in taw meat
    5. Plant-based proteins
    6. Gut imbalances
    7. Nutritional deficiencies
    8. Perfect carnivore
    9. Working with individuals
    10. Real life, real talk
    11. _____
      SPONSORS: 

      • Paleovalley
      • _____
        RESOURCES:

        • NwJ Interview with Dr. Bill Schindler
        • Complete GI Map Stool Test
        • Vilhjalmur Stefansson
        • Copper Inuit
        • Digestibility of Cooked and Raw Eggs 
        • Cooking Denatures Protein
        • Spectracell Micronutrient Test
        • Low Carb MD Podcast with Dr. Brian Lenzkes
        • Life’s Best Medicine Podcast
        • The Power of a CGM
        • Laura’s Locals Community
        • #Carnivore75Hard Free Program
        • #Carnivore75Hard Facebook Group
        • _____
          JUDY'S RESOURCES:

          • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
          • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
          • Nutrition with Judy Articles
          • Nutrition with Judy Resources
          • Judy's Instagram
          • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
          • Judy's YouTube
          • Judy's Facebook
          • _____
            LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

            • Laura’s Locals
            • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
            • Laura's Amazon
            • Laura's YouTube
            • Laura's Instagram
            • _____ 

              DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

              42 min
            • 71. Life Updates and Introducing Nutriment

              In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about life updates and Carnivore Cure’s Food Database – Nutriment.

              1. Laura’s updates
              2. Making it one day at a time
              3. Mental fortitude
              4. Overcoming fears and food addiction
              5. The right community and stepping stones
              6. Worst case scenario
              7. Laura’s new boss
              8. Kids’ school updates
              9. In-person connection
              10. Big brother
              11. Introducing Nutriment 
              12. Personalized elimination and Reintroduction resource
              13. Internet dancing
              14. _____
                SPONSORS: 

                • Paleovalley
                • _____
                  RESOURCES:

                  CATG Episode 44  - BOCA Conference

                  _____ 

                  JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                  • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                  • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
                  • Nutrition with Judy Articles
                  • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                  • Judy's Instagram
                  • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                  • Judy's YouTube
                  • Judy's Facebook
                  • _____ 

                    LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                    • Laura’s Locals
                    • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                    • Laura's Amazon
                    • Laura's YouTube
                    • Laura's Instagram
                    • _____ 

                      DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                      1 hr 6 min
                    • 70. Carnivore Differences: Men vs. Women with Chris Spath

                      In this episode, Laura and Judy chat with Chris Spath about his experience with carnivore. 

                      1. Can men eat leaner protein?
                      2. Defining satiety
                      3. Is weight loss easier for men?
                      4. Carbs more tolerable for men?
                      5. Electrolytes
                      6. Weight loss stories
                      7. Ground beef vs steak
                      8. Finding what works for you
                      9. Reverse dieting
                      10. Tips for meat-based eating
                      11. _____
                        RESOURCES:

                        • NwJ Podcast – Danny Vega
                        • Jason Fung – Fasting and Weight Loss  
                        • _____ 

                          SPONSORS: 

                          • Nutriment: The Most Comprehensive Elimination and Reintroduction Resource
                          • _____ 

                            JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                            • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                            • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
                            • Nutrition with Judy Articles
                            • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                            • Judy's Instagram
                            • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                            • Judy's YouTube
                            • Judy's Facebook
                            • _____ 

                              LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                              • Laura’s Locals
                              • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                              • Laura's Amazon
                              • Laura's YouTube
                              • Laura's Instagram
                              • _____ 

                                DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                                54 min
                              • 69. The Truth about Alcohol

                                In this episode, Laura and Judy explore alcohol on a low carb diet. 

                                1. Is alcohol “okay” on carnivore?
                                2. Alcohol and weight loss
                                3. Defining alcoholism
                                4. How alcohol breaks down in the body
                                5. Acetaldehyde
                                6. Foods with acetaldehyde
                                7. Sleep and alcohol
                                8. Why you pee a lot with alcohol
                                9. Lightweight as a low carb drinker
                                10. Peer pressure with alcohol
                                11. Alcohol vs. fructose
                                12. Supporting the body when consuming alcohol
                                13. Eating like your pregnant
                                14. _____
                                  RESOURCES:

                                  • NwJ Symptom Burden Assessment
                                  • NwJ Podcast – Dr. Robert Lustig
                                  • Acetaldehyde and Cancer
                                  • Brene Brown
                                  • CATG Ep 22. What to Drink on Carnivore
                                  • SPONSORS: 

                                    • Carnivore Cure
                                    • _____ 

                                      JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                                      • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                                      • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
                                      • Nutrition with Judy Articles
                                      • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                                      • Judy's Instagram
                                      • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                                      • Judy's YouTube
                                      • Judy's Facebook
                                      • _____ 

                                        LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                                        • Laura’s Locals
                                        • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                                        • Laura's Amazon
                                        • Laura's YouTube
                                        • Laura's Instagram
                                        • _____ 

                                          DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                                          41 min
                                        • 68. KetoCon 2022 Recap and Are You Eating Enough?

                                          In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about KetoCon and the Carnivore panel. 

                                          1. Highlights of KetoCon 2022
                                          2. Agenda against meat
                                          3. The power of a panel
                                          4. Carnivore panel
                                          5. Eat when you’re hungry, stop when you’re full—In context
                                          6. The cost of meat
                                          7. _____
                                            RESOURCES:

                                            1. KetoCon
                                            2. NwJ Podcast - Brian Sanders 
                                            3. Plant Free MD Podcast – Judy Cho 
                                            4. SPONSORS: 

                                              • Carnivore Cure: There's a $12 off coupon on the paperback version at Amazon.
                                              • _____ 

                                                JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                                                • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                                                • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
                                                • Nutrition with Judy Articles
                                                • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                                                • Judy's Instagram
                                                • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                                                • Judy's YouTube
                                                • Judy's Facebook
                                                • _____ 

                                                  LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                                                  • Laura’s Locals
                                                  • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                                                  • Laura's Amazon
                                                  • Laura's YouTube
                                                  • Laura's Instagram
                                                  • _____ 

                                                    DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                                                    50 min
                                                  • 67. Ask Laura and Judy Anything Part 2

                                                    In this episode, Laura and Judy answer your pressing questions. 

                                                    1. How much meat to start with? 
                                                    2. Does the amount of activity impact the amount of protein? 
                                                    3. How to get in more protein when restricting calories for so long? 
                                                    4. Why do low net carb foods throw me out of ketosis?
                                                    5. Best way to recover from a binge eating episode? 
                                                    6. Diet soda, sugar-free mints, gum. Thoughts? 
                                                    7. Is there absolutely no moment in your live you want ice cream or something sweet? 
                                                    8. Medicine with sugar or alcohol. What to do?
                                                    9. In the beginning, if friends invited you over, what do you do if they cook a carby casserole?
                                                    10. What do you do for birthdays/holidays instead of having a cake or sugary treats? 
                                                    11. If you were to travel abroad for vacation would you eat cultural foods or stay carnivore?
                                                    12. Can a person heal from candida with carnivore, add foods back in and still have zero candida? 
                                                    13. Carnivore for 6 months, how do I start incorporating new foods?  
                                                    14. Can Carnivore help visceral fat loss? 
                                                    15. If cortisol is high, will a 24 hour fast here and there be too much? 
                                                    16. How long does it take to heal your gut? 
                                                    17. Who do I consult about my blood work since my primary care doctor is not open minded? 
                                                    18. If I'm having muscle cramps on Carnivore, could it be not enough salt? 
                                                    19. How to fix hypothyroidism without meds. 
                                                    20. Thoughts on adrenal fatigue. Does carnivore heal adrenal fatigue?  
                                                    21. Canada meat-up?
                                                    22. _____
                                                      RESOURCES:

                                                      • CATG Ep. 62. - Overcoming Struggles
                                                      • CATG Ep. 49 – Ownership and Diet as a Journey
                                                      • Continuous Glucose Monitors
                                                      • NwJ YT – Reducing Visceral Fat with Dr. Sean O’mara
                                                      • CATG Ep 55. – Mold and Meat-Only Carnivore
                                                      • NwJ Bloodwork - Complete Wellness Panel
                                                      • Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis
                                                      • CATG Ep 20. Ask Laura and Judy Anything 
                                                      • _____ 

                                                        SPONSORS: 

                                                        • Carnivore Cure 
                                                        • _____ 

                                                          JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                                                          • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                                                          • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                                                          • Judy's Instagram
                                                          • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                                                          • _____ 

                                                            LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                                                            • Laura’s Locals
                                                            • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                                                            • Laura's Amazon
                                                            • Laura's YouTube
                                                            • _____ 

                                                              DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                                                              57 min
                                                            • 66. CIRS Deep Dive (If Carnivore Isn’t Fully Working)

                                                              In this episode, Laura and Judy do a deeper dive into Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). If you struggle with chronic illness or a chronic autoimmune illness, make sure to check out this podcast episode. 

                                                              1. Carnivore, chronic illness, and autoimmune
                                                              2. Review of Melanocyte Stimulate Hormone (MSH)
                                                              3. What symptoms NwJ looks for with Carnivore + CIRS
                                                              4. Candida and Carnivore
                                                              5. CIRS 1: Check symptoms
                                                              6. CIRS 2: Check vision test
                                                              7. CIRS 3: CIRS Bloodwork
                                                              8. How Judy knows if you’re not fully healing with Carnivore
                                                              9. Why Cholestyramine and Welchol are best for mold biotoxins
                                                              10. CIRS 4A: Lipid acid replacement (cell danger response)
                                                              11. Histamines and MCAS
                                                              12. How mold grows
                                                              13. CIRS 4B: ERMI or HERTSMI Test (environmental testing)
                                                              14. CIRS 4C: Limbic System Retraining support (mind-body support)
                                                              15. CIRS 4D: MARCoNS Testing
                                                              16. CIRS 4E: Finding a CIRS provider and heal
                                                              17. Why mind-body matters (the placebo effect)
                                                              18. Why your life depends on root-cause healing (it’s not just a slogan)
                                                              19. _____
                                                                RESOURCES:

                                                                • CATG Ep 55. Mold, Autoimmune, Hormones and Meat-only Carnivore
                                                                • NwJ CIRS Bloodwork
                                                                • NwJ Free CIRS Handouts
                                                                • OMAPREM (Lipid Acid Replacement)
                                                                • MegaOmega Omega 3s
                                                                • NwJ – What is CIRS YouTube
                                                                • NwJ – Interview with Dr. Eric Dorninger (CIRS Practitioner)
                                                                • Dr. Shoemaker’s VIP and Grey Matter Atrophy Restoration
                                                                • CellCore Products
                                                                • _____ 

                                                                  SPONSORS: 

                                                                  • Carnivore Bar: Use “NWJ” at checkout to get 10% off your order.
                                                                  • _____ 

                                                                    JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                                                                    • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                                                                    • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
                                                                    • Nutrition with Judy Articles
                                                                    • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                                                                    • Judy's Instagram
                                                                    • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                                                                    • Judy's YouTube
                                                                    • Judy's Facebook
                                                                    • _____ 

                                                                      LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                                                                      • Laura’s Locals
                                                                      • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                                                                      • Laura's Amazon
                                                                      • Laura's YouTube
                                                                      • Laura's Instagram
                                                                      • _____ 

                                                                        DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                                                                        42 min
                                                                      • 65. Personal Fat Threshold

                                                                        In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about the personal fat threshold theory and why it even matters.

                                                                        1. What is Personal Fat Threshold?
                                                                        2. A theory for diabetes
                                                                        3. Creating more fat cells (suitcase example)
                                                                        4. Fat vs. sick
                                                                        5. Health is more than a scale
                                                                        6. Excess weight and other illness
                                                                        7. Guardrails
                                                                        8. Signs of the body and illness
                                                                        9. Beyond the age of 40
                                                                        10. Meat and fruit
                                                                        11. _____
                                                                          RESOURCES:

                                                                          • CATG Ep 44. Low Carb Boca Raton Conference
                                                                          • NwJ Podcast with Dr. Arthur Agatston
                                                                          • _____ 

                                                                            SPONSORS: 

                                                                            • Carnivore Bar: Use “NWJ” at checkout to get 10% off your order.
                                                                            • _____ 

                                                                              JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                                                                              • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                                                                              • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
                                                                              • Nutrition with Judy Articles
                                                                              • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                                                                              • Judy's Instagram
                                                                              • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                                                                              • Judy's YouTube
                                                                              • Judy's Facebook
                                                                              • _____ 

                                                                                LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                                                                                • Laura’s Locals
                                                                                • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                                                                                • Laura's Amazon
                                                                                • Laura's YouTube
                                                                                • Laura's Instagram
                                                                                • _____ 

                                                                                  DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                                                                                  36 min
                                                                                • 64. Adding More Meat to the Diet

                                                                                  In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about how to add more meat to the diet for non-carnivores.

                                                                                  1. The Power of a CGM
                                                                                  2. How to Get Kids to Eat More Meat
                                                                                  3. Balancing Real Life with Kids
                                                                                  4. Prioritizing Protein and Fat First
                                                                                  5. Cutting out Snacks
                                                                                  6. Limiting Drinks
                                                                                  7. Kids Feeling Different
                                                                                  8. Treats other than Food
                                                                                  9. Kids and the Impacts of Sugar
                                                                                  10. Nutrition and Schooling
                                                                                  11. Keeping Junk Food out of the House
                                                                                  12. _____
                                                                                    RESOURCES:

                                                                                    • CGM Benefits
                                                                                    • Nutrition with Judy Children’s Resources
                                                                                    • _____ 

                                                                                      SPONSORS: 

                                                                                      • KetoCon: Use “CATG10” at checkout to get 10% off your 3-day pass
                                                                                      • _____ 

                                                                                        LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                                                                                        • Laura’s Locals
                                                                                        • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                                                                                        • Laura's Amazon
                                                                                        • Laura's YouTube
                                                                                        • Laura's Instagram
                                                                                        • _____ 

                                                                                          JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                                                                                          • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                                                                                          • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
                                                                                          • Nutrition with Judy Articles
                                                                                          • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                                                                                          • Judy's Instagram
                                                                                          • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                                                                                          • Judy's YouTube
                                                                                          • Judy's Facebook
                                                                                          • _____ 

                                                                                            DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                                                                                            41 min
                                                                                          • 63. The What and Why of Seed Oils

                                                                                            In this episode, Laura and Judy chat about all things seed oils.

                                                                                            1. What are Seed Oils 
                                                                                            2. Why are Seed Oils Bad? 
                                                                                            3. Essential Fatty Acids 
                                                                                            4. Cold Pressed vs. Oxidized Seed Oils
                                                                                            5. Americans and Seed Oil Consumption
                                                                                            6. Balancing of Real Life
                                                                                            7. Seed Oil vs. Sugar –90 day challenge
                                                                                            8. Processed Carbs vs. Seed Oils 
                                                                                            9. Consistency over Perfection
                                                                                            10. _____
                                                                                              RESOURCES:

                                                                                              • NwJ on PUFAs
                                                                                              • Nick Hiebert aka the Nutrivore and Seed Oils
                                                                                              • Nick vs Pedro: A Productive Conversation About Vegetables Oils and Health 
                                                                                              • MBPP EP. 670 - Nick Hiebert: Seed Oils Aren't As Bad As You May Think ft. Guest Host Chris Bell
                                                                                              • Dr. Bill Harris and Peter Attia Research
                                                                                              • Interview with Dr. Bill Harris 
                                                                                              • Diet Doctor Interview on Omega 6
                                                                                              • Dr. Paul Mason Interview 
                                                                                              • CATG Ep 61. Baby Formula Episode
                                                                                              • Kennedy Krieger Fatty Acid Test
                                                                                              • Goat Milk Formula Recipe
                                                                                              • BodyBio Balance Oil 
                                                                                              • Americans Consume 36 Pounds of Seed Oils Annually 
                                                                                              • Dr. Benjamin Bikman and Seed Oils as Secondary Cause
                                                                                              • _____ 

                                                                                                SPONSORS: 

                                                                                                • KetoCon: Use “CATG10” at checkout to get 10% off your 3-day pass
                                                                                                • _____ 

                                                                                                  JUDY'S RESOURCES:

                                                                                                  • Judy's Book, Carnivore Cure
                                                                                                  • Free #Carnivore75Hard Program
                                                                                                  • Nutrition with Judy Articles
                                                                                                  • Nutrition with Judy Resources
                                                                                                  • Judy's Instagram
                                                                                                  • Nutrition with Judy Podcast
                                                                                                  • Judy's YouTube
                                                                                                  • Judy's Facebook
                                                                                                  • _____ 

                                                                                                    LAURA'S RESOURCES: 

                                                                                                    • Laura’s Locals
                                                                                                    • Laura's Discount Codes & Interviews
                                                                                                    • Laura's Amazon
                                                                                                    • Laura's YouTube
                                                                                                    • Laura's Instagram
                                                                                                    • _____ 

                                                                                                      DISCLAIMER: This podcast should never be considered medical advice. We always recommend working with your medical team. Do not self-diagnose. Always seek medical guidance when you have a medical condition.

                                                                                                      50 min

                                                                                                    About Cutting Against The Grain

                                                                                                    From the publisher's feed

                                                                                                    Cutting Against the Grain is a podcast from Judy Cho (Nutrition with Judy) and Laura Spath. Both Judy and Laura understand the struggle when it comes to balancing ideal eating and real-life. In…