We've all heard of fasting as religious observances or even for bodily cleansing through food? But my guest today teaches us how a digital detox is fasting for our mental wellbeing.

Darren Whitehead, Head of the Church of the City and pastor, talks to me about how there's actually a Joy in Missing Out versus FOMO - when we detach from the technology around us. We all chat about his multicultural life, how he raises his kids and how he stumbled upon becoming a pastor.

Check out his new book, 'The Digital Fast.' And listen to our fun and enriching conversation!