Can companies truly thrive during economic downturns, and what does that mean for investors? Join us in this engaging episode featuring David Hay as we dissect the intricacies of the current economic landscape. We'll explore how companies that manage to uphold decent earnings during tough times might be worthy of a premium valuation. Hear David's fascinating journey from filmmaking to finance and gain insights into the bond market's complexities, where we distinguish between credit risk and duration. We'll also interpret the mixed signals from commodities and market caps and scrutinize labor market data, focusing on critical job revisions that may indicate a challenging road ahead for the economy.

Discover the implications of the "fourth turning," a period of significant societal upheaval marked by massive government debt and limited liquidity options. We delve into how this era could shape investment strategies, emphasizing the shift from financial assets to scarce, real assets that offer potential high returns in nominal terms. Learn why strategically positioning in scarce resources may be more advantageous than relying on easily created financial instruments like treasuries. This conversation provides essential insights for investors looking to navigate the turbulent economic environment and capitalize on emerging opportunities.

Finally, we explore evolving investment strategies and market trends, questioning the traditional 60-40 stock-bond portfolio mix. Understand the potential value in the mid-range of the yield curve and emerging market debt, and the dynamic performance of digital assets like Bitcoin. We also analyze the global energy market, the potential of small modular reactors, and the intriguing status of regional banks. With a focus on emerging markets, rolling recessions, and actionable investment strategies, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to stay ahead in these uncertain economic times.

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