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Discipline Isn't About Fixing Kids — It's About Fixing Us with Charle Peck & Joshua Stamper


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🎯 The Ruckus Report

Quick take: Traditional discipline assumes kids will reflect, reset, and return on their own. Charle Peck and Joshua Stamper expose the myth of self-regulation and offer a proven, trauma-informed framework that transforms behavior systems from reactive to relational.

🤝 Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Makers

Charle Peck is a global keynote speaker and co-author of The Language of Behavior and Improving School Mental Health. Her experience as a high school teacher turned clinical therapist brings real-world insight and urgency to her work supporting educators.

Joshua Stamper is an author, speaker, and former middle school administrator with a passion for trauma-informed education and leadership. He created Aspire to Lead to equip educators with practical, empathetic strategies that drive real change. As co-author of The Language of Behavior, Joshua helps schools implement transformative, relationship-centered approaches to discipline and student support.

🔨 Breaking Down the Old Rules

In this episode, Charle Peck and Joshua Stamper challenge traditional education paradigms:

🧠 Key Insight #1: Discipline Isn't Magic
  • What's broken: Detentions, ISS, and OSS assume kids will reflect and self-correct.
  • The shift: Behavior is a language. Read it, respond to it, and teach skills in context.
  • Impact: Reduced repeat referrals, improved student-teacher relationships.
🧠 Key Insight #2: The Push-In Model
  • What's broken: Students lose learning time. Teachers lose momentum. Nothing changes.
  • The shift: Admin, counselors, or coaches step in so teachers can connect 1:1 with students.
  • Impact: Thousands of instructional minutes reclaimed. Increased student engagement and academic gains.
🧠 Key Insight #3: Relationship Action Teams (RATs)
  • What's broken: Top-down initiatives die without real buy-in.
  • The shift: A grassroots team pilots behavior strategies, tracks wins, and grows culture from within.
  • Impact: Sustainable change. Staff ownership. A true transformation movement.
💬 Quotable Ruckus

"Too often we forget that discipline really means to teach, not to punish." – Charle Peck

"Connection before correction is the key." – Joshua Stamper

📈 Your Do School Different Challenge

Ready to implement these ideas? Start here:

  • Tomorrow: Try a "sky signature" as a rapid reset strategy to shift classroom energy.
  • This Month: Pilot the push-in model in one class. Reflect on what changes.
  • This Semester: Launch a Relationship Action Team with 3-5 educators ready to lead from within.
🔗 Connect & Continue

🌟 Get the full episode transcript here

👩🏻‍💻 Follow Charle Peck:

  • Website: https://www.thrivingeducator.org/speaking
  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/charlepeck1
  • Twitter X: https://twitter.com/CharlePeck
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlepeck/
  • Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-language-of-behavior/id1777075576

👩🏻‍💻 Follow Joshua Stamper:

  • Website: www.joshstamper.com
  • Twitter (X): @Joshua__Stamper (@Joshua__Stamper)
  • Instagram: @Joshua__Stamper (@Joshua__Stamper)
  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-stamper/
  • Blue Sky: @joshuaStamper
  • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@joshuastamper
  • Aspire to Lead Book: www.bit.ly/aspirelead
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If education ain't a bit disruptive, then what are your students really learning?

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