Lisa Fields sits down with Dr. K. Edward Copeland to unpack a growing trend in today's spiritual landscape: the rise of small group communities as substitutes for the local church and pastoral leadership. Together, they explore why God designed the church to include pastors, what happens when we bypass spiritual authority, and how real growth often comes from being challenged by people unlike ourselves.

From church hurt to influencer culture, from spiritual consumerism to authentic discipleship, this honest and insightful conversation will challenge your perspective on what it truly means to be part of the body of Christ.

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