Gaby welcomes Dr Alex George to the podcast to chat about all things joy.

Alex opens up about his recent OCD diagnosis - and what that means for him (no, it doesn't just mean putting things in order) and gives some advice for those who may be having a similar experience.

They chat about 'mental fitness' and why we should be teaching kids how to deal with emotions and manage them - which Alex believes is just as important as English, Maths and Science.

One of the big themes of the chat is 'acceptance' - and how finding peace in life is such an important part of being joyful and happy. Alex talks about the Toolkit For Life - which each of us needs - and is tailored specifically to us.

We loved delving in to some big topics with Dr Alex, and hope you will get as much out of it as we did!

You can find more about Alex and the work he does on his instagram