Listen to understand how dramatic questions shape audience engagement and pacing through sequences.
Chas and Stu are joined for the fourth time by the inestimable Stephen Cleary - this time to take a deep dive into sequences. A real deep dive. A 3+ hour deep dive.
Stephen postulates that sequences can compel the audience in different ways via the type of dramatic questions being posed. Are they plot questions ("Will she defuse the bomb?") or character questions ("Will she understand what compels her to defuse bombs?") or a combination of both? What is the impact on the pacing, structure of your story or audience experience of your characters by changing the type of question being asked? What happens to your story when your protagonist decides to literally abandon the plot?
Our deep dive roams through THE BOURNE IDENTITY, NAKED, THE DIVING BELL & THE BUTTERFLY, THERE WILL BE BLOOD, FARGO (the movie) and CHILDREN OF MEN... with many-a-tangent referencing HEAT, FRENZY, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, AMOUR, CHEF, HAPPY-GO-LUCKY, THE KINGSMAN, FURY ROAD, THE COLOUR OF POMEGRANATES, LIVING IS EASY WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED, MOONLIGHT, and probably some more that we've forgotten.
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"But at the point where the audience gets a little bit, okay, this is getting a bit philosophical, you then just drop, you just end up dropping, you're dropping a 12 minute car chase." — Stephen-Cleary @ 00:00:00
00:00:00 – Introduction00:01:38 – History and Theory of Sequences00:05:08 – › Testing reel-length theory against silent film evidence00:10:53 – › Dramatic questions as the engine of sequence structure00:17:10 – 3 Kinds of sequences00:19:44 – Plot-Lite Revisted - AMOUR, CHEF AND HAPPY-GO-LUCKY00:24:01 – High Intensity Plot Sequences - HEAT and FRENZY00:27:09 – › Intensity as the constant across plot and character sequences00:31:10 – › Three sequence types and the limits of pure character storytelling00:36:07 – BOURNE IDENTITY - Homestead sequence00:38:29 – › Converting plot sequences into plot-character sequences00:47:01 – › When the hero refuses action, plot reasserts itself00:51:27 – › Character resolution across the trilogy's arc00:54:43 – NAKED - Maggie Sequence00:58:11 – › How plot dissolves as a character loses meaning01:02:47 – › Classical sequence structure beneath unconventional storytelling01:06:35 – Road Movies and LIVING IS EASY WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED01:09:26 – › LIVING IS EASY WITH EYES CLOSED as plot-to-character arc01:13:00 – NAKED - Security Guard Sequence01:17:40 – › Defining character questions versus plot questions01:21:31 – Plot as The Hook01:24:06 – › Using sequence types to provoke genre conventions in BOURNE01:26:44 – THE KINGSMAN01:29:41 – › How plot relaxation enables character intensity01:32:43 – Character Sequences & Audience Introspection01:34:52 – DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY01:38:54 – › Character question versus plot question in opening sequences01:41:03 – › How plot and character questions interlock across story structure01:44:35 – › Character-first structure as inversion of conventional story logic01:51:32 – › Adaptation craft and writing the subjective experience on the page01:55:41 – THERE WILL BE BLOOD01:58:32 – › Plot overload versus character engagement as audience resource02:03:25 – › Imagistic sequencing as an alternative story logic02:05:28 – FARGO02:09:29 – › How a detour scene reveals character without plot function02:14:57 – › Marge's strategy: letting people reveal themselves02:20:12 – CHILDREN OF MEN02:23:33 – › Character question versus plot question in opening sequences02:31:04 – › World as character and the faith-versus-chance thematic core02:43:40 – › Pure character scenes and how they contrast with genre expectations02:50:27 – › Sequences as a tool for writers to understand and control audience engagement03:03:44 – Key Learnings03:06:21 – › Sequence types as a structural palette for writers03:09:44 – Final WordsTHE BOURNE IDENTITY (2002) — (w) William Blake Herron, Tony Gilroy, Robert Ludlum (d) Doug LimanNAKED (1993) — (w) Mike LeighTHE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY (2007) — (w) Ronald Harwood (d) Julian SchnabelTHERE WILL BE BLOOD (2007) — (w) Upton Sinclair, Paul Thomas Anderson (d) Paul Thomas AndersonFARGO (1996) — (w) Ethan Coen, Joel Coen (d) Joel Coen, Ethan CoenCHILDREN OF MEN (2006) — (w) Timothy J Sexton, David Arata, Alfonso Cuaron, Mark Fergus, Hawk Ostby, P D James (d) Alfonso CuaronKINGSMAN: THE SECRET SERVICE (2015) — (w) Jane Goldman, Matthew Vaughn (d) Matthew VaughnStudy the script: THE BOURNE IDENTITY (2002) — William Blake Herron, Tony Gilroy, Robert LudlumStudy the script: THE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY (2007) — Ronald HarwoodStudy the script: THERE WILL BE BLOOD (2007) — Upton Sinclair, Paul Thomas AndersonStudy the script: FARGO (1996) — Ethan Coen, Joel CoenStudy the script: CHILDREN OF MEN (2006) — Timothy J Sexton, David Arata, Alfonso Cuaron, Mark Fergus, Hawk Ostby, P D JamesStaging the violence in TOTAL RECALL 1990 vs 2012Time and space in staging "Oners"YouTube: HEAT - Bank RobberyYouTube: FRENZY - Potato Truck SceneYouTube: NAKED - Maggie! Scene from Mike Leigh's 1993 DramaYouTube: NAKED - Jonny and the Secur...