If you think you're seeing more e-bikes on the roads, you're not wrong. In New Zealand, their sales are soaring. But it wasn't always this way; the e-bike revolution started with motivated people and, in this country, one of the early movers was Mike Tritt, a former Greenpeace staffer who founded the retail chain Electrify NZ. Mike talked with co-host Ross Inglis about the business of e-bikes and what needs to happen next in terms of policy and infrastructure.