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E289: The Truth About Perimenopause for Women Ready to End Mood Swings, Brain Fog and Emotional Burnout


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In this episode of The Art of Living Well Podcast®, hosts Marnie Dachis Marmet and Stephanie May Potter explore one of the most commonly misunderstood yet transformative phases of a woman's life: perimenopause and menopause. Drawing from their personal experiences and expertise as functional wellness coaches, they offer empowering insights and holistic strategies for navigating this phase with clarity, confidence, and resilience.

From mood swings and brain fog to hot flashes and sleep disturbances, Marnie and Stephanie cover it all, while reinforcing that menopause is not a disease but a natural milestone. You'll learn how lifestyle, nutrition, supplements, and mindset can help you feel more like yourself again and even thrive during this transition.

Whether you're already experiencing symptoms or preparing for the future, this candid conversation will help you tune in to your body and feel supported, not sidelined. What You'll Learn in This Episode:

  • The difference between perimenopause and early menopause (before age 45).

  • The emotional rollercoaster of perimenopause: anger, brain fog, and mood swings.

  • Natural approaches to balance hormones and alleviate symptoms, without rushing into medications.

  • How to reframe mental challenges during this phase, including cognitive behavioral therapy techniques.

  • The importance of strength training and diet (phytoestrogens, healthy fats) during perimenopause.

  • Supplements and lifestyle shifts that may ease symptoms and support your body during this transition.

  • A conversation about hormone replacement therapy (HRT) and its role in treating menopause symptoms.

Noteworthy Quotes from the Episode:

  • "Menopause is a natural milestone in a woman's life. It's not something to endure, but something to embrace." – Marnie Dachis Marmet

  • "Your body is trying to communicate with you. Take those symptoms as a sign that something needs to shift." – Stephanie May Potter

  • "Menopause doesn't need to be a crisis. It's about finding tools that work for your body, and that might look different for everyone." – Marnie Dachis Marmet

  • "You are not your thoughts. Separate yourself from the emotions and reactions that come with hormone fluctuations." – Stephanie May Potter

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps:

[00:00] Welcome to the perimenopause and early menopause episode.

[04:38] What is perimenopause vs. early menopause?

[06:17] Emotional rollercoaster: anger, brain fog, and mood swings.

[09:57] Functional medicine's approach to treating perimenopause.

[11:40] Importance of nutrition: Phytoestrogens and Mediterranean diet.

[16:40] Strength training and cardio: essential for bone health and mood.

[20:00] Supplements and their role in supporting hormone balance.

[23:00] Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) for reframing thoughts.

[29:05] The hormone replacement therapy debate: is it right for you?

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