This week on Upstream, political scientist and writer Ricard Hanania returns to the show. Erik and Richard discuss wokeness, the Israel-Palestine conflict, the mythos of the modern right, Richard's upcoming debate with Curtis Yarvin, and more.

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LINKS

Richard's Substack: https://substack.com/@richardhanania

Tickets to Richard's debate with Curtis Yarvin: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/yarvin-vs-hanania-monarchy-vs-democracy-moderated-by-anna-khachiyan-tickets-796276132347

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(02:31) Wokeness, DEI, and the removal of university presidents

(06:44) How the Israel-Palestine conflict is affecting DEI

(08:22) American sentiment towards Israel-Palestine

(17:09) Sponsor | Shopify

(18:46) Richard's foreign policy perspective on Israel-Palestine

(23:02) Nietzschean Liberalism

(25:39) How much truth can people take?

(30:44) Technology as a spiritual north star

(32:39) Reactionary feminism

(38:34) Male status & birth rates

(41:49) How important is IQ?

(45:29) How to discuss difficult truths

(48:00) Richard's debate with Curtis Yarvin

(54:39) Understanding Effective Altruism

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