People try to live on the Earth and take from it instead of with it and seeing how they can contribute to it.

Shannon O’Hara chats with Gary Douglas and Dr. Dain Heer about what we can step into being for the Earth, with the Earth and living as the Earth. Instead of using the Earth, we should work with it to get different possibilities than what is occurring today.

Have a different perspective or we’re not going to create what’s actually possible for us with the Earth.

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