"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

E8: Samo Burja on America's Future, China, AI, and the New Global Order


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Erik sits down with political scientist Samo Burja ( @SamoBurja  ) who founded Bismarck Analysis, a consulting firm that analyzes institutions (ranging from governments to companies). Samo is one of the most interesting and wide-ranging thinkers today. In this episode, they discuss the current state and future state of America, China, Russia, Ukraine, energy, the US dollar, AI, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/UPSTREAM

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode preview

(03:05) Who’s right: Balaji, Zeihan, or Olson?

(07:18) Why China’s prospects aren’t as bad as Zeihan thinks

(09:46) What have we learned one year out after Ukraine?

(13:12) Future of The U.S. dollar

(15:19) Sponsors: Secureframe

(17:03) Balaji’s Bet

(17:42) Future of America

(22:06) Why Brazil hasn’t panned out

(26:34) Is AI communist and crypto libertarian

(29:37) Evolution of elites

(33:40) Comparing Elon and SBF

(36:12) Economics of automation and AI

(41:28) How intellectual culture has changed

(43:39) America exporting Western values

(47:42) America and China converging

(50:00) Startup cities vs incumbents

(52:54) Samo’s consultancy

(55:35) Samo’s upcoming research interests


TWITTER:

Erik’s Twitter: @eriktorenberg

Samo's Twitter: @samoburja


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